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joshua7789 09-21-2009 06:14 PM

Mayhem Vs Shields
 
Who is your pick to win the Strikeforce middleweight title, Jason Mayhem Miller or Jake Shields? Im going with Shields. I dont think that Mayhem has good enough standup to finish Shields and it will only be a matter of time before Jake gets this to the ground and subs him. I know that Mayhem has some good sub defense, he spent most of his first fight on the ground with Jacare without getting tapped but i think that Shields is quite a bit better on the ground then Jacare when it comes to an mma match.

Drogo 09-21-2009 07:12 PM

Two WW's fighting for the MW title...I can't be the only one who finds this funny?

stevy1222 09-21-2009 09:49 PM

i guess so. shields beat lawlor like it was nothing. lawlor is a top middleweight and shields finished him quick in the first. shields doesn't want to fight diaz in welterweight so he put on more weight and he's going to stay up there either until his contract expires in 2 fights or if he wins the belt

kantowrestler 09-21-2009 10:31 PM

Shields
 
He will probably win some kind of belt with Strikeforce and I doubt he is going to the UFC!

Drogo 09-22-2009 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stevy1222 (Post 1002807)
i guess so. shields beat lawlor like it was nothing. lawlor is a top middleweight and shields finished him quick in the first. shields doesn't want to fight diaz in welterweight so he put on more weight and he's going to stay up there either until his contract expires in 2 fights or if he wins the belt

Shields is decent but Lawler is in no way a top MW. He hasn't beaten anyone good in a lonnnnnng time. I think Shields will win a decision against Miller but Diaz would beat Shields.

Sicilian_Esq 09-22-2009 04:58 PM

Shields is going to take this fight. Jason Mayhem Miller doesn't have any skillset that will surprise Shields, and it will only be a matter of time before Shields gets this fight to the ground and submits Miller.

That being said, I do believe Shields is a Top Ten Welterweight, but in the lower half of the ranking. As Drogo says, Diaz would beat Shields, any of the American Kickboxing Academy clique would beat Shields [i.e. Kos, Swick, Fitch], Alves would overpower him, and Shields is no where near the competitive level of George St. Pierre.

The Horticulturist 09-22-2009 09:30 PM

I think Miller can handle Sheilds in every situation. I've heard him talking about the fight for the last few weeks, and he's training his ass off. I know I'm at least pulling for Mayhem.

stevy1222 09-24-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SuicideJohnson (Post 1003830)
I think Miller can handle Sheilds in every situation. I've heard him talking about the fight for the last few weeks, and he's training his ass off. I know I'm at least pulling for Mayhem.

i don't think miller will handle shields in every postion. i think it'll go the distance. i have shields as the winner

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Originally Posted by Drogo (Post 1003171)
Shields is decent but Lawler is in no way a top MW. He hasn't beaten anyone good in a lonnnnnng time. I think Shields will win a decision against Miller but Diaz would beat Shields.

you are right. he's not a way top middleweight, but he can sure beat almost any of the other strikeforce middleweights and shields was smaller than him that fight. i don't think diaz would beat shields. they were sparring partners and they are just about equal on the ground, diaz has a slight edge standing up but i don't see him winning. but thats just what i think

box 09-24-2009 11:29 PM

I have Miller winning by red dragons.

morninglightmt 09-25-2009 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sicilian_Esq (Post 1003554)
Shields is going to take this fight. Jason Mayhem Miller doesn't have any skillset that will surprise Shields, and it will only be a matter of time before Shields gets this fight to the ground and submits Miller.

I agree. I also think Miller is one tough sob. I think this fight will be brutal and very one sided. Miller is going to look like Rockey after 12 rounds with Apollo Creed.

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That being said, I do believe Shields is a Top Ten Welterweight, but in the lower half of the ranking. As Drogo says, Diaz would beat Shields, any of the American Kickboxing Academy clique would beat Shields [i.e. Kos, Swick, Fitch]
Would be so nice if he could fight at least one of the AKA guys to see where he really ranks. siiigh....


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