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post #21 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-29-2006, 03:13 PM
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Well the competition is one thing, but in terms of revenue and projected growth, its not even close. UFC's event's are bigger televions events, drawing more than 3 mil regularly now. Their competition is NASCAR, and that will eventually trickle down to contracts and talent. Games almost over boys. PRIDE won the battle..... UFC is winning the war.
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Your facts are mixed up a bit. Pride isn't on PPV in Japan, it's on NETWORK television in Japan on FujiTV which is one of the two biggest networks in Japan (Comparable to NBC, ABC or CBS in the states). Next to K-1 (except perhaps Baseball and Soccer?), MMA and especially Pride is the next biggest sporting event on Japanese television. What the UFC has right now with Spike doesn't even begin to compare with what Pride had over there. As of right now though Pride has lost its spot due to the rumors of them dealing with the Yakuza, so I agree that the UFC can still win in the long run.

And the UFC doesn't get 3 million viewers, they get a 3.0 or so share, which is closer to 1.5-1.8 million people (don't quote me on that number, but it aint 3 million viewers).
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No way. Pride is UFC's B%%ch!
Lol, I once said that to Sub By Armbar and he went into a coma lol. The next thing he was on my door step, just kidding lol. They are both pretty even if you think about it. Over seas PRIDE is a hit but here in America UFC is a hit. Back in 2000 UFC was nothing but now its a growing huger and huger by the minute. PRIDE is actually decreasing popularity.
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Who cares about a welterwight?!?!?! that has to be the most moronic comment I have ever heard, George St. Pierre , Matt Hughs, BJ Penn, Sean Sherk, Carlos Newton, Joe Riggs, Ivan Salavary , Pat Militech, Frank Trigg, I could go on and on you can not deny the absolute talent of these fighters

Also in the LHW div, Randy Cotoure Chuck Liddell, Tito Ortiz, Vitor Belfort, Jeremy Horn(on occasion) Evan Tanner

HW, Ricco Rodriguez, Silvia , Arlovski, Rizzo,

The list goes on and on and on, what did Pride produce, maybe 10 big name fighter who anybody gives a shit about. come on man.

Pride draws bigger crowd but think about it
Pride is held in Tokyo, given the sheer population and fighting culture it is only natural the crowds are huge.

Vanderlei is exciting, but he is a wild swinger, A world class striker (like Vitor Belfort) would destroy him. Like Vitor did in 44 seconds!

I have said it 100 times on this forum and I will say it again, the fighters the "graduate to Pride" are the former top fighters in the UFC who no longer hold their own against the new more talented fighter coming in to the UFC. When you say that Pride offers them bigger contracts, this may be true, but when you are a big name UFC fighter you get a hell of alot more like huge endorsment deals, Tito has had a role in a movie, and the fame is much higher. Any fighter who can make it and has a choice will pick UFC.

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u think vitor is world claas striker ? ur crazy!! and look wat happened when anderson silva faught leben..massacre..the welterweights are stronger in the ufc and middleweoghts are about even..heavyweights no contest..i seriously believe fedor could beat all 5 top ufc heavyweights in one night!! chuck , silva would be awesome, as would chuck shogun, or chuck arona, or chuck lil nog...wow pride lhw division is f'n loaded
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u think vitor is world claas striker ? ur crazy!! and look wat happened when anderson silva faught leben..massacre..the welterweights are stronger in the ufc and middleweoghts are about even..heavyweights no contest..i seriously believe fedor could beat all 5 top ufc heavyweights in one night!! chuck , silva would be awesome, as would chuck shogun, or chuck arona, or chuck lil nog...wow pride lhw division is f'n loaded
Dude, you're talking to guy who thinks Justin Eilers, Paul Buentello, and Cabbage are bigger threats in the HW division than Nogueira.
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Your facts are mixed up a bit. Pride isn't on PPV in Japan, it's on NETWORK television in Japan on FujiTV which is one of the two biggest networks in Japan (Comparable to NBC, ABC or CBS in the states). Next to K-1 (except perhaps Baseball and Soccer?), MMA and especially Pride is the next biggest sporting event on Japanese television. What the UFC has right now with Spike doesn't even begin to compare with what Pride had over there. As of right now though Pride has lost its spot due to the rumors of them dealing with the Yakuza, so I agree that the UFC can still win in the long run.

And the UFC doesn't get 3 million viewers, they get a 3.0 or so share, which is closer to 1.5-1.8 million people (don't quote me on that number, but it aint 3 million viewers).
Actually got those viewing stats off of UFC's web site:

However if you think Japan has a comparable media, or consumer spending habits as Americans, you're smoking too much rice paper..... UFC is an important player for prime time TV ad dollars and those will parlay into contracts and more talent in the future. Sorry Pride fans.... but its almost over.......
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