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Old 11-05-2009, 09:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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except hes soft and wont come fight in the ufc
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:16 PM   #23 (permalink)
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OK I have one nobody can actually beat (assuming these are the only categories allowed)

Boxing: Muhamed Ali
Kicks: Mike Warren
Muay Tai: Buakaw Por. Pramuk
Freestlye Wrestling: Alexander Medved
Grecoroman wrestling: Alexander Karlen
Judo:Masahiko Kimura
BJJ: Braulio Estima
Blending of all styles together: GSP
Cardio: Haile Gebrselassie
Strength:Mariusz Pudzianowski

This fighter is also known as Rob Emerson
Ya that guy would be pretty much invincible. Nice job
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:43 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Hopefully that doesn't mean Shogun's gas tank from the Coleman fight
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:41 PM   #27 (permalink)
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HA! It does look like Gonzaga!
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:01 PM   #28 (permalink)
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this thread ended the second his holy name was typed...

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Old 11-07-2009, 01:44 AM   #29 (permalink)
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ive been watching mma for a solid year now and following closely for about 4 months i read articles every day i may be new but i know my shit
im not saying fedor is bad i know he is good but you make him seem like some unbeatable god, same as lyoto he needs a smart fighter to figure out his holes
hm four months... so you're in the "I watched the HMC highlight" phase of Fedor worshipness. You'll get there
btw Bas Ruten and Wanderlei say Fedor has no holes in his game... I guess they're just chumps tho?

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ok Fedor isn't the perfect fighter nor is the most well rounded fighter either.
Definitely, all those guys who have beaten him and exploited his weaknesses would agree.


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LOL Fedor isnt the BEST at any one of those, he is probly the most well rounded, but not the best at anything really, exept maybe Mindset.

I can't even be sarcastic about this one. You understand that Fedor's submission defense is so good that he was able to effortlessly sit in Nog's guard and destroy him for like 30 minutes right? Nog has some of the most dangerous submissions in the game. You know why we say "some of" and not "the most"? Fedor.

Fedor has outstriked Semmy Schilt, CroCop, Arlovski, Mark Hunt, Sylvia etc.

And not the best at any one thing? You understand he's like a ten time national and global Sambo champion right? He outwrestled Coleman, Lindland (and olympic medalist), easily transitioned on Randleman, easily outwrestled and transitioned on Nog (who easily outwrestled and transitioned Couture). He's also a Judo world champion and black belt. Watch him mandhandle Mousasi, there's a great throws video on youtube.

Fedor is pretty convincingly the best wrestler and take-down artist (and take down defender) in MMA.

As far as submissions go... that basically speaks for itself. This guy has more first round submissions than anyone, and against great wrestlers and JJ guys. And again, we can bring up his insane Sambo and Judo record.


Let's not forget his game planning is perfect, he's never shaken (even when wounded), and he fights for the fans and for his family. Plus he shows utmost respect to his opponents before and after (and during). Not to mention he's probably the only guy on the P4P list who's proven he's P4P. He's fought much, MUCH bigger opponents consistently and has always come out on top.


My perfect fighter though:
Vitor's hands
Silva's elbows
Mousasi's kick checking/headmovement
Bas Rutten's liver kicks
Fedor's throws
Fedor's submissions
CroCop's LHK
Buentello's chin-specific aim
Nog's heart
Fedor's cardio
Nelson's belly (IT HAS BENEFITS, PEOPLE!)
Nog's chin
GSP's explosive wrestling and top control
HMC's reach
Forrest's emotions after a fight (cuddling with the guy you just choked out needs to happen more often!)
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hm four months... so you're in the "I watched the HMC highlight" phase of Fedor worshipness. You'll get there
btw Bas Ruten and Wanderlei say Fedor has no holes in his game... I guess they're just chumps tho?



Definitely, all those guys who have beaten him and exploited his weaknesses would agree.





I can't even be sarcastic about this one. You understand that Fedor's submission defense is so good that he was able to effortlessly sit in Nog's guard and destroy him for like 30 minutes right? Nog has some of the most dangerous submissions in the game. You know why we say "some of" and not "the most"? Fedor.

Fedor has outstriked Semmy Schilt, CroCop, Arlovski, Mark Hunt, Sylvia etc.

And not the best at any one thing? You understand he's like a ten time national and global Sambo champion right? He outwrestled Coleman, Lindland (and olympic medalist), easily transitioned on Randleman, easily outwrestled and transitioned on Nog (who easily outwrestled and transitioned Couture). He's also a Judo world champion and black belt. Watch him mandhandle Mousasi, there's a great throws video on youtube.

Fedor is pretty convincingly the best wrestler and take-down artist (and take down defender) in MMA.

As far as submissions go... that basically speaks for itself. This guy has more first round submissions than anyone, and against great wrestlers and JJ guys. And again, we can bring up his insane Sambo and Judo record.


Let's not forget his game planning is perfect, he's never shaken (even when wounded), and he fights for the fans and for his family. Plus he shows utmost respect to his opponents before and after (and during). Not to mention he's probably the only guy on the P4P list who's proven he's P4P. He's fought much, MUCH bigger opponents consistently and has always come out on top.
I wouldn't say that he outstruck Arlovski. AA was handling Fedor pretty well until he made a mistake. But up until that point AA was winning handily.

Also I would have to disagree with Fedor being the best wrestler and put GSP as the best. I could also put Lesnar in front of Fedor and I think Cain is a better wrestler too.

Now Fedor does have amazing sub offense and defense so you will get no argument from me there.

Also, the problem with thinking Fedor is p4p #1 is that he is running out of big fights, once he is done in Strikeforce he has nothing outside of the UFC. If he never signs, then he will never get to face the rest of the top fighters and will lose the title as best HW. I've said this before, p4p best is not a lifelong title, it must be constantly proven.

And Nog outwrestling a Couture that is way past his prime isn't worth much.
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