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FightOfTheNight 11-06-2009 04:56 PM

The Risks And Rewards For Strikeforce On Saturday Night
 
Here's an article about tomorrow nights card that aims to highlight some of the potential risks and rewards that are attached to it as far as Strikeforce are concerned...

The Risks And Rewards For Strikeforce On Saturday Night

Personally I'm really looking forward to the fights, but I'm also interested to see how the results will affect Strikeforce, either for better of for worse, in the coming year.

alizio 11-06-2009 05:21 PM

CBS and Strikeforce should be ashamed at the lack of promotion done for the best FREE event in history. The talent is there, top guys in three seperate divisions fighting on the same card, but all my casual fan friends didnt remember it was on this saturday, the lack of promotion is scandalous.

name goes here 11-06-2009 05:39 PM

It saddens me that Kimbo is more of a draw than Fedor. Brett and Mousasi too should be big draws. Casual viewer I curse you!

Toxic 11-06-2009 07:40 PM

The risk for Strikeforce is huge, I mean if Fedor loses they end up with an over priced fighter who lost his mystique, its not just Fedor either I mean if Sokky flash Ko's Mousasi then Strikeforces LHW champ will have lost to a guy who couldn't cut it in the UFC, same with the Werdum/BigFoot fight. There are some major risks involved in these 3 fights for a company that is building.

FightOfTheNight 11-06-2009 08:20 PM

Yes, I think so too. So much rides on Fedor in particular winning, but Mousasi losing would also be far from ideal.

The only fight on the main card that is a win-win scenario is Shields Vs Mayhem.

DropKick 11-06-2009 08:23 PM

I don't think Mousasi losing would be a big deal for them. He isn't well known among casual MMA fans and it's a non title fight for some reason. He should win this fight but Sokky is capable of getting the quick flash KO. Why it's not a title fight I don't know. You'd think since it's going to be nationally televised they would want it to be. Personally, I don't like champions fighting when the belt isn't on the line. Apparently they don't think that Sokky should be fighting for a belt, then why make the fight?

khoveraki 11-06-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 1036927)
The risk for Strikeforce is huge, I mean if Fedor loses they end up with an over priced fighter who lost his mystique, its not just Fedor either I mean if Sokky flash Ko's Mousasi then Strikeforces LHW champ will have lost to a guy who couldn't cut it in the UFC, same with the Werdum/BigFoot fight. There are some major risks involved in these 3 fights for a company that is building.

I honestly think you're wrong, and I tend to agree with you.

If Rogers KOs Fedor, he's beaten two top 5 in a row impressively. He'll then be Strikeforce's first homegrown contender, and they can sell Rogers just as well as Fedor or better (since they don't own any of Fedor's fights). Plus a lot of fans in the state are just learning of Fedor, so if he puts up a great well-rounded fight against the much much bigger and more intimidating Rogers, he'll get plenty of attention anyway.

And if Mousasi loses somehow to Sokoudjou (honestly less possible than Fedor losing to Rogers IMO), Sokoudjou is back on track of becoming a huge LHW contender. Having wins against Lil Nog, Arona, Sapp, Mousasi, and possibly Minowaman would be a pretty awesome accomplishment.

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Originally Posted by DropKick (Post 1036950)
I don't think Mousasi losing would be a big deal for them. He isn't well known among casual MMA fans and it's a non title fight for some reason. He should win this fight but Sokky is capable of getting the quick flash KO. Why it's not a title fight I don't know. You'd think since it's going to be nationally televised they would want it to be. Personally, I don't like champions fighting when the belt isn't on the line. Apparently they don't think that Sokky should be fighting for a belt, then why make the fight?


I guess the reason it's not a title fight is some sort of contractual problem with Sokoudjou, but I doubt it'd go more than 3 rounds anyway. But the reason they're fighting is because they couldn't at the Super Hulk Tournament, so the hype is already there.

Toxic 11-06-2009 08:41 PM

Fedor is barely making a name for himself if he loses to Rogers who is also clawing to make a name for himself it does far more damage to Fedor than it benefits Rogers, to the casual fan the fact Rogers beat Arlovski would mean more than saying he beat Fedor.

As for people saying Sokky knocking out Moussai wouldn't mean much I fail to see your logic, Strikeforces champion loses a non title fight to a guy who the UFC let go because he kept losing to mid teer talent, how is this not a black eye to the company? There champion becomes a paper champion holding a worthless title that almost anybody in the UFC could hold. If Rogers, Werdum and Sokky win tonight, then Dana and the UFC are the real winners.

khoveraki 11-06-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 1036959)
Fedor is barely making a name for himself if he loses to Rogers who is also clawing to make a name for himself it does far more damage to Fedor than it benefits Rogers, to the casual fan the fact Rogers beat Arlovski would mean more than saying he beat Fedor.

As for people saying Sokky knocking out Moussai wouldn't mean much I fail to see your logic, Strikeforces champion loses a non title fight to a guy who the UFC let go because he kept losing to mid teer talent, how is this not a black eye to the company? There champion becomes a paper champion holding a worthless title that almost anybody in the UFC could hold. If Rogers, Werdum and Sokky win tonight, then Dana and the UFC are the real winners.



You're forgetting that "casual fans" have evolved with the sport. Not all casual fans think that fighters can't get better, or are always the same. Look at the overwhelming amount of people who think that Shogun is back in great form. They're now watching his Pride fights on youtube and building hype. It's not like the consensus was "Machida was always a can, and Shogun still sucks." Or look at GSP after the Serra fight. Did everyone write him off instantly just because he lost when he shouldn't have?

And if Rogers vs Fedors is a huge war, it'll be great for both fighters. This isn't the world as Foxnews sees it. A great fight impresses casual fans because it's a smaller less intimidating man vs a huge intimidating man. If Fedor loses, the casual fans won't instantly write him off, you need to give them more credit than that. They'll probably say "whoa that small Russian dude put up a crazy fight, I wonder who else he's fought."

And if Soko loses, they could say he's getting back into great form and is ready to be a big contender at LHW again. Soko is no can and he's been enormously impressive before.


Bottom line, the only way Strikeforce loses is if all the fights are boring. If every fight is exciting, then the fans, Strikeforce, and MMA as a whole have won.

Toxic 11-06-2009 09:43 PM

The hardcore fan base thinks shogun is back to form the casual fan is jut going damn this guy can fight. You comparison to GSP makes no sense, the casual fan watched GSP come into a monster he just wasn't a guy who showed up and the announcers said he is the best ever. And frankly your casual fan is not you tubing fight videos, once you start doing that your blurring the lines and your no longer a "casual" fan. The more accurate comparison would be comparing Fedor to Shogun when he first came to the UFC and lost to Griffen, bottom line is he was written off right up till he knocked out Liddell after that, problem is Strikforce doesn't have a Liddell to reastablish Fedor and beating the likes of BigFoot and Werdum just won't cut it.


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