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i missed the fight between Tim Silva(related to anderson?) and Fader (Baders evil twin??) who won? ;P

Seriously tho, Big Tim sucks, it was a joke he was ranked high when he fought Fedor but he is from an era of very boring one dimensional HWs, unfortuantely for him that era has ended and i dont see him competing with any top HW.

I know you really like AA Coldcall, but who has he beaten that has you so impressed? Why was he ranked so high?? Beating B level guys after Timmy tooled him (2x and u diss Timmy to no end) deserves top 5 credit?? Ppl need to realize he has always been all hype, his hands arent even that great and if he goes to box he will get KO'd some more.

It kind of sucks, the HW division is evovling so fast guys who were considered top fighters a few years ago cant hang with the new guys... makes it hard to really rank ppl, i mean how do you lose to Timmy x2 then beat, Jake O'Brian, Werdum, Rothwell and big country and get ranked in the top 5?? None of those guys were ranked in the top 10 nevermind 5, it seems alot of these rankings are skcewed, Cain beats Kongo then Rothwell, no top 10?? If he adds Big Country would he be top 10?? Its just so difficult and so BS the way the rankings are done, esp with so many guys going around in circles losing to each other and different ppl.

FTR AA beat Timmy as well. But thats not the point, the guy has been so close to his dream, which, imo is to beat fedor, this last time especially he was devestated....

I like him his boxing and stand up are great he has one fundamental problem, and its not that he is old or cant hang or that these new guys are coming. Its that he doesnt keep his hands up to protect his chin, I would submit his chin is as good as most guys but he leaves it wise open....

As far as all the new talent...they need and needed HW's for a long time in MMA ther arent that many in the UFC, some went to Affliction for the $ (Tim) but mainly there the division wasnt stacked so now there is a influx of new fighters...that does not diminsih the skills of the old....POINT and CASE Fedor vs, Rogers and we all know you were goin for Rogers....

The game is evolving, but dont think the bad boys from the beginning dont know how to adapt....
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i missed the fight between Tim Silva(related to anderson?) and Fader (Baders evil twin??) who won? ;P

Seriously tho, Big Tim sucks, it was a joke he was ranked high when he fought Fedor but he is from an era of very boring one dimensional HWs, unfortuantely for him that era has ended and i dont see him competing with any top HW.

I know you really like AA Coldcall, but who has he beaten that has you so impressed? Why was he ranked so high?? Beating B level guys after Timmy tooled him (2x and u diss Timmy to no end) deserves top 5 credit?? Ppl need to realize he has always been all hype, his hands arent even that great and if he goes to box he will get KO'd some more.

It kind of sucks, the HW division is evovling so fast guys who were considered top fighters a few years ago cant hang with the new guys... makes it hard to really rank ppl, i mean how do you lose to Timmy x2 then beat, Jake O'Brian, Werdum, Rothwell and big country and get ranked in the top 5?? None of those guys were ranked in the top 10 nevermind 5, it seems alot of these rankings are skcewed, Cain beats Kongo then Rothwell, no top 10?? If he adds Big Country would he be top 10?? Its just so difficult and so BS the way the rankings are done, esp with so many guys going around in circles losing to each other and different ppl.
Alright, first off Jake O'Brian was undefeated when Arlovski beat him and was seen as a can't miss prospect many people were actually picking him to beat AA, Werdum was coming in form Pride as a world class submission grappler who had recently beaten Overeem and Aleks E, Rothwell was considered a top 10 HW till Arlovski knocked him of the list and Big Country was the IFL champ which did carry some weight and was seen as a respectable fighter who was probably top 15 at the time.

Now as for the he'll get knocked out again, come on AA has never been knocked out by any scrubs his jaw may not be rock solid but its written off much to easily.




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Agree with the last two post completely.



Also, going back to the AA and Sylvia fights, not that it matters, but the second fight was very argueable, AA got rocked, Sylvia landed on him we all know how it ended, including as soon as the fight ended AA got up not dizzy or anything. The third fight I would'nt exactly put as a bragging point for Sylvia, infact it motivated Randy to come out of retirement and whoop him. Both fighters knew how much was on the line and knew that the other has tremendous power in their hands, the result was one of the most boring ufc pay per view main events.


just had to get that out, tired of people saying Sylvia "tooled" AA, because he didn't. "tooled" is setting up a perfect 1, 2 two fights in a row, especially when the first resulted in submission via ankle lock, who even wins like that?
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Alright, first off Jake O'Brian was undefeated when Arlovski beat him and was seen as a can't miss prospect many people were actually picking him to beat AA, Werdum was coming in form Pride as a world class submission grappler who had recently beaten Overeem and Aleks E, Rothwell was considered a top 10 HW till Arlovski knocked him of the list and Big Country was the IFL champ which did carry some weight and was seen as a respectable fighter who was probably top 15 at the time.

Now as for the he'll get knocked out again, come on AA has never been knocked out by any scrubs his jaw may not be rock solid but its written off much to easily.

This. Arlovski has all the tools necessary to be a top 5 HW for a long time, if he got his mind straight.

The dude's an AMAZING striker, he's got great grappling (he was a Sambo champion) and he's a physical specimen. It's just that he gets lost in his own mind and can never seem to focus. If he had a prime CroCop's focus or Nog's current focus, he would be nearly unbeatable IMO.

Now that he's at a real training camp, maybe we'll see him do amazingly again.
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Sylvia did beat AA's ass once and stuff him another time, and he has wins over Monson, Vera and Ricco -- when really was really good.

Yeah, he was dummied by Mercer, but that could have happened to anyone who doesn't train. As for the Fedor bout, I wonder if he was just a little freaked out going into that one.

Sylvia's still a tough matchup for a lot of fighters, if he prepares physically and is in good shape mentally. I wouldn't mind seeing him against a couple of Strikeforce heavyweights, to see what he has left.
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Sylvia did beat AA's ass once and stuff him another time, and he has wins over Monson, Vera and Ricco -- when really was really good.

Yeah, he was dummied by Mercer, but that could have happened to anyone who doesn't train. As for the Fedor bout, I wonder if he was just a little freaked out going into that one.

Sylvia's still a tough matchup for a lot of fighters, if he prepares physically and is in good shape mentally. I wouldn't mind seeing him against a couple of Strikeforce heavyweights, to see what he has left.



Think he could beat any HW in the UFC right now??? Not a can...
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Think he could beat any HW in the UFC right now??? Not a can...
Maybe. Hard to tell right now. On paper, he's a bad matchup for bjj guys like Mir, as long as he avoids the takedown and doesn't fall into guard.
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Think he could beat any HW in the UFC right now??? Not a can...

I definitely see him beating GG, maybe Kongo, maybe Mir in a rematch, probably poor crocop, definitely Rothwell... honestly I'd like to see him against Valesquez as well.


I think JDS would knock him out for the record. I'm a huge JDS fan.
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I definitely see him beating GG, maybe Kongo, maybe Mir in a rematch, probably poor crocop, definitely Rothwell... honestly I'd like to see him against Valesquez as well.


I think JDS would knock him out for the record. I'm a huge JDS fan.

Kongo, I thought tbh, Rothwell I dunno, the rest...imho NO Way.....
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