Originally Posted by poundedout45

Fedor didn't sub him because he didn't need to. Stopped him buddy. Did you watch Cain wreck 2 strikers in Kongo and Rothwell? And Mir outboxed Nog. Do you think he couldn't outbox a guy or that Werdum couldn't submit a guy who was working at Sams Club a year ago?

Originally Posted by alizio

your gonna regret being on the Rogers bandwagon a year from now or flat out deny it. I wont bother argueing the silly logic that he could take Kongo out on the feet... and your a k1 fan huh?? I guess Rogers could go into K1 and just start busting heads huh?? lol what a joke, im not even gonna argue with you on this one, ill just sit back and let time do it's thing and prove you wrong, remember this thread plz

Originally Posted by khoveraki

You've got serious mental issues guy. If you can't watch the Arlovski fight, the Fedor fight, all his last opponents that he walked through, and say Rogers isn't talented... you have no fight experience and are clearly bias beyond belief.


I'll take a sigbet for whatever Rogers fight you feel appropriate. Maybe when he fights Werdum?

He's already steamrolled one UFC champion.




What the hell does this even mean? MMAF needs an age limit, no thirteen year olds allowed.

Originally Posted by khoveraki

Wow. You are very ignorant. Mir has better boxing, Werdum could easily submit him when Fedor couldn't, etc




Kongo would maul Rogers? You saw what Rogers did to Arlovski right? And Rogers is just now starting to train full-time.

And if Cain took any of the shots from Rogers that he took from Kongo, he'd be layed out flat.

There's no way Mir or Werdum submit Rogers, I don't know if you saw the Fedor fight or not, but maybe you should watch it.

Originally Posted by alizio

again, personal insults from "Mr. Classy" who sends me neg reps with long explanations telling me not to personally insult ppl, it's not appropiate lol do you see what a hypocrite you are??

As for Rogers... you put it well... Fedor (who he lost to), AA (who he flashed KO'd cant gain much from that fight except he has exceptional punching power and AA has a glass jaw, already both known) and... how did you put it up there?? "all the last opponents".... good way to put it, because they dont deserve names. Rogers isnt a bottom of the barrel HW, he just isnt anynear the the top and he wont last very long in the top 10. What did he do vs Fedor?? Get taken down by a very small HW not known for his TDs?? He reserved position because Fedor went for a sloppy armbar and had top position against the cage for 5 seconds and couldnt hold it?? You gained alot of confidence from that huh?? He was utterly dominated.

STOP with the personal insults and discuss the issue, stop being a hypocrite and self righteous if you want to discuss things. The funny part is you think ppl dislike me, but whenever i run over you on a thread and you backpedal or run away (like the Cain isnt ranked thing) ppl send me tons of positive reps dissing you... you need to stop talking down to ppl, you need to stop mentioning your w/e fighting background we are supposed to respect because you say so and just discuss things.

Originally Posted by HitOrGetHit

Kongo is a world class kickboxer, Rogers just has heavy hands and Arlovski's chin has always been suspect. Kongo's striking is on a whole other level than Roger's. Kongo's only downfall is his ground game or lack thereof.

Originally Posted by khoveraki

Hey guy, all you ever do is jump in a thread to show disrespect and you add zero input to the thread. Look at the post you added here. It's SO stupid and pointless and misinformed. I follow multiple sports therefor I think Rogers would be a K1 champ? What the hell, what are you ever even talking about? Every post you make is just a big block run-on sentence that brings up no sources, cites no facts, has shallow opinions and hints of massive biases.

And our argument was, you thought Valesquez was ranked above JDS, and even cited the world's worst rankings as being legitimate. Every ranking in the world ranks JDS above Valesquez rightfully, end of story. Valesquez hasn't ever faced guys like Arlovski or Fedor, not even close.



You guys think that Rogers doesn't train striking or something? I don't understand this concept. He trains with Sergio Cunha, the striking coach who trained Anderson Silva, Shogun Rua, and Wanderlei.

Kongo's striking is great but who has he outstruck that's on Arlovski's level? Hardonk? And Kongo didn't even have the power to finish a daydreaming Crocop. Not to mention that Roger's GnP is superior to Kongo's and he's got a huge size and wrestling advantage.

Rogers shows fantastic clinch skills (minus holding the cage like a big jerk), utilized his reach fantastically, and demonstrated impressive wrestling and sub-defense. I don't understand why he gets this dismissive hate.

Valesquez is a way smaller guy who gets hit A LOT, and you guys think he'd walk all over Rogers? That's so crazy it makes me start thinking you guys are racist or something. Rogers is a horrible match-up for so many heavyweights, especially guys like Valesquez or Mir.

Mir likes to leave his hands down and throw predictable, sloppy jab-uppercut combos, and he has nowhere near enough power to KO Rogers. Even after Fedor's huge hook Roger's still had his eyes open and defended enough to make it a TKO instead of a clean KO.

Originally Posted by poundedout45

You really didn't watch the fight, did you? Rogers got dominated. Excellent wrestling and clinch work??????? Are you insane?