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And you see nothing wrong with Mousasi's contract?
I'm pretty sure every single fighter on the UFC's roster is independant of each others though,.
The Moussasi contract isnt ideal but I can understand why Strikeforce and M1 wanted it this way. Having Fedor and Gegard on one night ensures that the viewers and those who paid for their tickets are getting the best show and are seeing a packed card with top talents. Again its quality not quantity.

I do however have a huge issue with the UFC contract which is VERY much one sided and locks a fighter in with ONE PROMOTIONAL COMPANY. As a fighter you want to fight the best from around the world. There are many quality fighters not with the UFC.


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Its been debunked by people who flat out lie to to there own clients, Dana has said it was the largest contract ever offered by the UFC and Im pretty confident that much is true even if the exact number is exagerated.
Well Fedor seems to be an honest guy who has a good working relationship with Vadim. From what ive seen, it seems to be Dana White who lies, he has back tracked, gotten cought out and fallen flat on his face so many times.


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That's Fedor's problem, the championship clause only makes sense, are you forgetting what BJ did?
That is indeed one of the problems faced by Fedor that ultimately halted the contract from being signed. In a normal sport the best should be competing for a medal, trophy, belt, I have never heard of a championship clause from any other sport. The problem is that the UFC is run more like the WWE and not as a proper sport.

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What kind of stupid ass crap is this? Seriously when was the last time an employer came to your house for a job interview? How much special treatment do you think Fedor deserve?
Its called being head hunted and happens quite regularly. This happened to me once and was enough to sway me to take up the offered position.

This obviously does not happen to everyone. People who get this special treatment are normally those at the top of their field, like Fedor. Talents like these are very hard to come by, their talents sought by many organisations. Head hunting top talents is all part of properly running a company.

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20% of M-1 without Fedor's contract is worth about fifty three cents, Fedor could make way more money without M-1 riding his coat tails its got nothing to do with Fedor being desperate it has to do with him being contractually obligated to a bunch of swindlers.
Oh hi there Dana. Fifty cents? wow does this mean that without Fedor I could buy out M1 with my pocket change? Hahahahaahahh your too funny Dana.

Talking about swindled, this is how Dan Henderson felt after being lied to by Dana. The UFC are a bunch of crooks with gambling and the mafia being the back bone of their organisation.

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Wow Toxic, you're impossible to argue with that huge bias hanging out around you. C'mon, M1 is a huge international promotion - everytime I hear "fedor is the only person M1 has" I just roll my eyes and disengage from the argument.
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The Moussasi contract isnt ideal but I can understand why Strikeforce and M1 wanted it this way. Having Fedor and Gegard on one night ensures that the viewers and those who paid for their tickets are getting the best show and are seeing a packed card with top talents. Again its quality not quantity.
The Mousasi contract is complete bullshit, his problem is that he is signed by M-1 meaning for him to compete Strikeforce has to co-promote the event with M-1, this makes no sense for somebody like Mousasi so Strikeforce is most likely only gonna use him on cards when Fedor fights since they already have to co-promote for Fedor.
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I do however have a huge issue with the UFC contract which is VERY much one sided and locks a fighter in with ONE PROMOTIONAL COMPANY. As a fighter you want to fight the best from around the world. There are many quality fighters not with the UFC.
And since the UFC spends so much money marketing there fighters it makes 0 sense for them to allow them to put that investment at risk fighting elsewhere.



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Well Fedor seems to be an honest guy who has a good working relationship with Vadim. From what ive seen, it seems to be Dana White who lies, he has back tracked, gotten cought out and fallen flat on his face so many times.
Pretty easy to pick on what Dana says considering he gets a thousand times as much time speaking to the media.



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That is indeed one of the problems faced by Fedor that ultimately halted the contract from being signed. In a normal sport the best should be competing for a medal, trophy, belt, I have never heard of a championship clause from any other sport. The problem is that the UFC is run more like the WWE and not as a proper sport.
There is no comparing the championship clause to any other sport because the teams will always still be there, the WWE wouldn't need a championship clause the comparison is only brought up to try and insult the concept because the WWE could just have there champions drop the belt, not an option in a legitimate sport.





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Oh hi there Dana. Fifty cents? wow does this mean that without Fedor I could buy out M1 with my pocket change? Hahahahaahahh your too funny Dana.

Talking about swindled, this is how Dan Henderson felt after being lied to by Dana. The UFC are a bunch of crooks with gambling and the mafia being the back bone of their organisation.
What is M-1 worth without all the co-promoting they use Fedor to demand, practically nothing, the company has zero noteriety and is basically worthless. M-1 is Fedor and a bunch of guys clinging to his coat tails, nothing more.

Dan never got swindled by the UFC, he wanted a shit pile of money the UFC didn't think he was worth it, there was nothing back handed about it, Dana said it numerous times when Dan was a free agent, he wanted more money than he was worth and he couldn't draw enough PPV buys to make the investment an intelligent business decision.

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Wow Toxic, you're impossible to argue with that huge bias hanging out around you. C'mon, M1 is a huge international promotion - everytime I hear "fedor is the only person M1 has" I just roll my eyes and disengage from the argument.
Huge international promotion, have you watched an M-1 card? Hell Breakthrough which was supposed to be there elite show was crap with a bunch of guys who I wouldn't pay to watch at the local show and a main event of the most overhyped beginer in MMA King Mo vs the never was that great to begin with past his prime Mark Kerr, there are over a dozen organizations in MMA who are miles ahead of your "international promotion".
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The Mousasi contract is complete bullshit, his problem is that he is signed by M-1 meaning for him to compete Strikeforce has to co-promote the event with M-1, this makes no sense for somebody like Mousasi so Strikeforce is most likely only gonna use him on cards when Fedor fights since they already have to co-promote for Fedor.
This is what normally happens in a properly ran promotion. Gegard is managed by M1-Global who in turn makes deals with other promotional companies to showcase a bout. Both agree to a cut percentage and what they are responsible for. This way Gegard can fight in K1, for Strikeforce or for many other promotions (apart from UFC). On the other hand if Gegard ever decides to fight for the UFC then he would not be able to fight against fighters from other promotions.

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And since the UFC spends so much money marketing there fighters it makes 0 sense for them to allow them to put that investment at risk fighting elsewhere.
Letting their fighters fight international talent is good for MMA fans and also good for the back pocket. What the UFC is doing is protecting its fighters from worthwhile challenges.

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Pretty easy to pick on what Dana says considering he gets a thousand times as much time speaking to the media.
Thatís because he lies so much and he bags so many people.

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There is no comparing the championship clause to any other sport because the teams will always still be there, the WWE wouldn't need a championship clause the comparison is only brought up to try and insult the concept because the WWE could just have there champions drop the belt, not an option in a legitimate sport.
Lets compare it to boxing. Getting that belt means as much for many fighters as the money. Why shouldnít Fedor get the reward? Why must Dana put so many unfair restrictions?

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What is M-1 worth without all the co-promoting they use Fedor to demand, practically nothing, the company has zero noteriety and is basically worthless. M-1 is Fedor and a bunch of guys clinging to his coat tails, nothing more.

Dan never got swindled by the UFC, he wanted a shit pile of money the UFC didn't think he was worth it, there was nothing back handed about it, Dana said it numerous times when Dan was a free agent, he wanted more money than he was worth and he couldn't draw enough PPV buys to make the investment an intelligent business decision.
M1 has a huge footprint all over the world. Open your eyes and look past your own borders, there is a huge world outside America. UFCs position in Russia would be reversed i.e. M1 would be the dominant company while UFC would be the no name upstart. Your argument is like saying the UFC would be nothing without Brock and Kimbo.

According to Dan money was only a small cause. One of the main cause he kept going on about was that he was promised a fight, that fight went to someone undeserving.

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Former UFC middleweight Dan Henderson spoke with Sherdog.com just minutes after the announcement that heíd jumped promotions and signed a four-fight, 16-month deal with rival organization Strikeforce. Henderson, who had co-headlined four of his last five appearances in the UFC, negotiated with both promotions until last Friday.

Sherdog.com: Why did you pick Strikeforce over the UFC?
Henderson: The decision was based on a number of things. It wasnít just a financial thing. It was the fact that I felt I wasnít getting the fight that I wanted in the UFC. That was a big part of that -- that I wasnít and that it got yanked away from me. I think I stepped up for the UFC a number of times and had earned that right again for a title fight. And the fact that publicity-wise, CBS offers quite a bit more than a pay-per-view and Spike TV.


Sherdog.com: In September, you sat down with UFC owners Lorenzo Fertitta and Dana White in Las Vegas and confronted them about being passed over for the next middleweight title bout against Silva. How did they respond?
Henderson: The fight got pulled from me and was offered to Vitor (Belfort). I met with them after Vitor fought Rich Franklin. I told them that it does irritate me. I said, ĎWhy does Vitor get to jump the line when thereís me and (Nate) Marquardt here who can both fight for a title shot and Vitorís never fought for the UFC at 185? He jumps the line, especially since I beat him.í They acted surprised that Iíd even fought him. They werenít up on those details at the time. It jogged their memory, but either way, to put someone in there that I dominated not that long agoÖ


Sherdog.com: At one point during renegotiations Dana White stated that you were trying to become the highest paid fighter in the UFC Ė
Henderson: I donít know what anyone else makes, but didnít he make a comment after that a couple of weeks later that I was upset about what Tito (Ortiz) makes? I have no idea what Tito makes. So, if Iím trying to be the highest paid fighter, why would I be upset about what Tito makes? These are his own comments contradicting themselves. Either way, I donít know what Tito makes and I didnít really know where I was on the totem pole over there, but I felt like I wasnít getting fair market value for myself.

Sherdog.com: How did the UFCís banning of your clothing brand, Clinch Gear, from their events affect renegotiations?
Henderson: Well, at least Iíll be able to have Clinch Gear on in the cage when I fight for Strikeforce. The banning didnít really affect anything though. When the UFC called and said that we could no longer sponsor (other fighters), that we were banned from the UFC, I wasnít mad at all. It was more funny to me than anything that they would do that. Dana has stated to me that it was nothing personal and that there were no hard feelings at all. If there were no hard feelings, why would they ban a clothing line? We already had a deal; we were paying for the right to sponsor guys just like every other sponsor was. For them to come back and say just because Dan hasnít re-signed a deal yet, weíre banned.

Sherdog.com: Does that play into your comment earlier that they need to respect fighters more?
Henderson: Absolutely. Things like that arenít necessary and for them to do that in the middle of negotiations doesnít make me feel respected. Itís more of a strong-arm tactic and a lot of people turn the other way when that happens. To me, it was just funny. I didnít take it personally, but it just seemed a little contradictory to the Ďno hard feelingsí thing.


Sherdog.com: The critics of this move might say youíre leaving the elite of the sport to go fight lesser competition. How would you respond to that?
Henderson: Itís questionable. Where is (Gegard) Mousasi ranked in there? He might be the guy to beat Anderson Silva up. And obviously Fedor (Emelianenko) is unscathed and has proven that he is probably the top heavyweight in the world. Jake Shields has never fought in the UFC. I think that Strikeforce has a lot of great matchups for me. Iím in this sport not just for the money, but I love the challenge of it. Those three guys are great challenges for me and Strikeforce has quite a few guys that are really top at 185 and above. Their roster is growing rapidly with top guys, not just lower-level guys.
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Huge international promotion, have you watched an M-1 card? Hell Breakthrough which was supposed to be there elite show was crap with a bunch of guys who I wouldn't pay to watch at the local show and a main event of the most overhyped beginer in MMA King Mo vs the never was that great to begin with past his prime Mark Kerr, there are over a dozen organizations in MMA who are miles ahead of your "international promotion".


Compare the M1-Challenge to The Ultimate Fighter (especially season 10). There are allot better fighter being shown on M1-Challenge than the celeb come fighter in TUF.
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This is what normally happens in a properly ran promotion. Gegard is managed by M1-Global who in turn makes deals with other promotional companies to showcase a bout. Both agree to a cut percentage and what they are responsible for. This way Gegard can fight in K1, for Strikeforce or for many other promotions (apart from UFC). On the other hand if Gegard ever decides to fight for the UFC then he would not be able to fight against fighters from other promotions.
But nobody wants to co-promote with M-1 so he is hardly ever gonna get to fight anywhere unless Fedor is fighting. Its way worse cause if Fedor gets injured no major MMA company is copromoting to get Mousasi.


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Letting their fighters fight international talent is good for MMA fans and also good for the back pocket. What the UFC is doing is protecting its fighters from worthwhile challenges.
Quit looking at it like a fan boy and look at it like a buisiness, noob money is just as good as fan boy money if you don't believe Dana just ask the guys who ran Affliction.

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Thatís because he lies so much and he bags so many people.
Can you even try and be objective for 30 seconds?


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Lets compare it to boxing. Getting that belt means as much for many fighters as the money. Why shouldnít Fedor get the reward? Why must Dana put so many unfair restrictions?
Have you not got the memo boxing is a mess and there isn't any organization you could compare to the UFC, that is exactly the shit show that the UFC is trying to avoid.


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M1 has a huge footprint all over the world. Open your eyes and look past your own borders, there is a huge world outside America. UFCs position in Russia would be reversed i.e. M1 would be the dominant company while UFC would be the no name upstart. Your argument is like saying the UFC would be nothing without Brock and Kimbo.
Get off it, M-1 is a small fish and may be the only one in the pond over there but that does not make them the big fish. They are a joke with low level talent to even compare them to the UFC which has most of the best fighters in the world is so blatantly absurd that its not even funny.

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According to Dan money was only a small cause. One of the main cause he kept going on about was that he was promised a fight, that fight went to someone undeserving.
Funny before Dan signed to Strikeforce he kept saying he didn't care because Marquardt and Silva were gonna be his next two fights regardless.



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Compare the M1-Challenge to The Ultimate Fighter (especially season 10). There are allot better fighter being shown on M1-Challenge than the celeb come fighter in TUF.
No, there really isn't, those cans couldnt even win TUF, every M-1 show I have seen was filled with out of shape bums.
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But nobody wants to co-promote with M-1 so he is hardly ever gonna get to fight anywhere unless Fedor is fighting. Its way worse cause if Fedor gets injured no major MMA company is copromoting to get Mousasi.
Your talking garbage again and just sprouting out pure speculation which is quite wrong by the way. Most promotional companies have been able to co promote and work with M1 both in the past and recently quite well. The only exception to this rule is UFC.

For Gegard, apart from Strikeforce he has also fought on Fighting and Entertainment Group, Bodog, Pride Fighting Championships and many other.


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Quit looking at it like a fan boy and look at it like a buisiness, noob money is just as good as fan boy money if you don't believe Dana just ask the guys who ran Affliction.
Well you might like the WWE model of the UFC but thats you. If you only want American fighters fight the best in America then thats also just you. But please dont consider UFC champions to be world champs if they wont even fight the best from around the world.

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Can you even try and be objective for 30 seconds?
Coming from you, thats a bit rich dont you think?


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Have you not got the memo boxing is a mess and there isn't any organization you could compare to the UFC, that is exactly the shit show that the UFC is trying to avoid.
From what ive noticed boxing is still extreemly popular and profitable, far more profitable than MMA. Boxing isnt as popular in America because more and more world champions come from places outside America.


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Get off it, M-1 is a small fish and may be the only one in the pond over there but that does not make them the big fish. They are a joke with low level talent to even compare them to the UFC which has most of the best fighters in the world is so blatantly absurd that its not even funny.
Hahahahh the fact is M1 is a big fish in their own region, just like the UFC. The also have two of the best talents unlike the UFC with its 4-1 paper champion and their 46 year old hall of famer grandpa.

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Funny before Dan signed to Strikeforce he kept saying he didn't care because Marquardt and Silva were gonna be his next two fights regardless.
Obviously Dan was very bitter being unfairly overlooked for another fighter fancied by Dana. how many times am I going to prove you wrong? Your obvuiously a noob in MMA and have not even done your background research.


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No, there really isn't, those cans couldnt even win TUF, every M-1 show I have seen was filled with out of shape bums.
Again I disagree, all of these M1 challenge fighters are better skilled and fitter than the TUF challengers. The Russian Legion fighters are especially good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRPZJA92s2Y

Most of the TUF fighters have vertually no skills, especially with their ground game and quite a few of them have just garbage cardio. Its like Kimbo and his opponent at the end of the fight, so exhausted that both were throwing pillow punches.

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2)His salary would be totally controlled by the UFC and can be easily cut to any value if UFC decides his performance was "poor" without any strict criteria what "poor" really mean. By other words UFC would pay him so few as they want refering to that point of contract.

3)He can fight only in the UFC and has no right to fight anywhere else including amateur sambo competitions. That means that Fedor will have to wait for his next fight as so long as Dana wants, no matter how long it takes.
This is sorta similar to nfl's non guarantee contracts to me... or am i missing something?

I think mousasi being tied to fedor isn't as bad as it sounds. Technically, Mousasi is under the M1 banner, so it is only fitting that he can only fight in SF if M1 is co-promoting. From what I get from Mousasi's quote this is exactly the point, but it seems that M1 will only co-promote with SF if fedor is fighting hence Mousasi is tied in with Fedor. If this is true (only my own speculations) it seems very weird and not fair for Mousasi in that why isn't M1 willing to co-promote with SF that just features Mousasi alone?

I think one debate you guys were arguing is comparing this with the UFC banner where they force UFC fighters to only fight amongst their rosters. This imo is equally restricting as the M1 rules. HOWEVER.... the difference to me is UFC has a lot of talent and there is rarely a shortage of good fights for fighters (with the exception of gsp and silva clearing their divisions). Even with the Dan Henderson situation, although he didn't get the title shot he wanted, he was still offered to fight a very game opponent in nate marquardt. In Mousasi's case, he wasn't really offered anyone but was pretty much told to wait for Fedor. I wouldn't mind M1's policy as much if it allowed Mousasi to fight more often instead of fighting the african assassin for a non-title bout or k1.
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This is sorta similar to nfl's non guarantee contracts to me... or am i missing something?
I dont really know NFL but to me it seems to be a very one sided contract. Fedor was right in not taking up the offer.

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I think mousasi being tied to fedor isn't as bad as it sounds. Technically, Mousasi is under the M1 banner, so it is only fitting that he can only fight in SF if M1 is co-promoting. From what I get from Mousasi's quote this is exactly the point, but it seems that M1 will only co-promote with SF if fedor is fighting hence Mousasi is tied in with Fedor. If this is true (only my own speculations) it seems very weird and not fair for Mousasi in that why isn't M1 willing to co-promote with SF that just features Mousasi alone?
Its more about the quality of the cards and also co promoting percentages. With two quality fighters M1 would have been in a better position to get a better bargain and better pay for both fighters. You know what they say about strength in numbers.

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I think one debate you guys were arguing is comparing this with the UFC banner where they force UFC fighters to only fight amongst their rosters. This imo is equally restricting as the M1 rules. HOWEVER.... the difference to me is UFC has a lot of talent and there is rarely a shortage of good fights for fighters (with the exception of gsp and silva clearing their divisions). Even with the Dan Henderson situation, although he didn't get the title shot he wanted, he was still offered to fight a very game opponent in nate marquardt. In Mousasi's case, he wasn't really offered anyone but was pretty much told to wait for Fedor. I wouldn't mind M1's policy as much if it allowed Mousasi to fight more often instead of fighting the african assassin for a non-title bout or k1.
I still think that Gegard had a far better contract and can pursue other organisations around the world. UFC fighters for me are more well known in America but not necessarily better fighters. The UFC depth doesnt seem to be all that flash either. You dont really have a flash roster if your champion is 4-1 and another of your champion is 46 years old.
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