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Old 12-16-2009, 09:39 PM   #11 (permalink)

 
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another fraudulent champion running his mouth. Start fighting real MMArtists if you want real MMA respect, you are obviously a gifted kickboxer but nothing much has been proven in MMA imo and he will be exposed very, very shortly on the ground. Prob Frank could have done it had he not broken his arm but this is another perfect matchup for Cung, Smith will just stand and bang with Cung.
Le isn't even a gifted kickboxer, he is average at best, Manhoef would destroy him in the first round, fact is he had a competitive fight against a past his prime Frank Shamrock who only fought Le's game. Le has fought absolutely nobody who is relevant in the sport in this day and age. To be perfectly honest Im not even gonna write off Smith even if he does try and stand with Le.

Cung Le is easily the most overated fighter to ever step into a cage, the fact that people would actually mention him in the same sentence as a guy like Dan Henderson is laughable at best.
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Le isn't even a gifted kickboxer, he is average at best, Manhoef would destroy him in the first round, fact is he had a competitive fight against a past his prime Frank Shamrock who only fought Le's game. Le has fought absolutely nobody who is relevant in the sport in this day and age. To be perfectly honest Im not even gonna write off Smith even if he does try and stand with Le.

Cung Le is easily the most overated fighter to ever step into a cage, the fact that people would actually mention him in the same sentence as a guy like Dan Henderson is laughable at best.


Every kickboxing, thai boxing, karate, and general striking coach I've ever met regard Cung Le's standup very highly. I guess you know something they don't?
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:13 PM   #13 (permalink)

 
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I know he couldn't destroy Frank Shamrock who has never been considered a great striker even in his prime, Nick Diaz destroyed Frank Shamrock standing, shouldn't such an elite level MW kickboxer as you claim Le is be able to do that much quicker than a LW MMA fighter?
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Every kickboxing, thai boxing, karate, and general striking coach I've ever met regard Cung Le's standup very highly. I guess you know something they don't?
Yeah credit where credit is due, Cung Le's standup is brilliant.
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I know he couldn't destroy Frank Shamrock who has never been considered a great striker even in his prime, Nick Diaz destroyed Frank Shamrock standing, shouldn't such an elite level MW kickboxer as you claim Le is be able to do that much quicker than a LW MMA fighter?
Frank Shamrock isn't a b-level striker, and neither is Nick Diaz.


You should know that MMA striking is much different than normal kickboxing, you have to be cautious due to take-downs.
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:36 PM   #16 (permalink)

 
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Frank Shamrock isn't a b-level striker, and neither is Nick Diaz.


You should know that MMA striking is much different than normal kickboxing, you have to be cautious due to take-downs.
Neither guy is ever gonna be brought up in a thread discussing the top strikers in MMA, Shamrock looked fairly evenly matched with Le, neither could strike with a real fierce striker.

I realize there is a diffrence in the striking of MMA and kickboxing but despite all of Le's flashy striking he would get owned by a top level stiker. Cung Le should stick to movies cause he is not an elite level striker and sure as hell is not an MMA fighter.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:15 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I've actually got Smith winning this. He's one of the best punchers -- and definitely the hardest hitter -- Le has yet faced. He's got a solid chin, too.
I'm looking for Le to score early with kicks and punches, before Smith finally cracks him with a counter right and follows up for a TKO.
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Lightbulb Type of Match

So basically you are saying this will be a slugfest and that Smith will win.
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Wow very long interview, i'll have to read it when i come back.
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Every kickboxing, thai boxing, karate, and general striking coach I've ever met regard Cung Le's standup very highly. I guess you know something they don't?
Yeah... Le is a great kickboxing 'coach'... thats it.

You know how the saying goes... those that cant do, teach

thats not to say he isnt skilled technically... or that he couldnt hold his own in the stand up game... but his talent is being overly hyped... and Im a Cung Le fan
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