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Old 12-20-2009, 02:38 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I don't comment on that!

The only thing i have to say is, that the fight already should have been stopped in the 1 round. Smith didn't defended himself intelligent anymore! TKO Victory for Cung anything else was a robbery!
LOL!

Again... Le was great with the stand up... but on the ground, he was completely ineffective.

He was like a fish out of water trying to finish Smith on the ground. Smith was defending himself... but he didnt need to very much because Le wasnt doing anything that was hurting him.

LMAO! 'Smith didn't defended himself intelligent anymore'... please!



This was the best Le had to offer on the ground?!?!
This was Scott in trouble?!?!
geeze... how nice it must be in the world you live in.
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Old 12-20-2009, 03:17 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Yes youre right Cung was great in the Standup and looked phenomenal even through he took a break to do Movies. He destroyed Smith standing up, he had no answer for Cung Lee's attacks. And youre picture shows it very well how he demolished Smith with his Hammerfists on the ground. That was the moment were the fight could have easily stopped from the referee. Smith did nothing to defend himself he was laying and praying. You can compare this one to Jon Jones vs. Hamill were the fight should have been stopped as well before Bones trough the illegal elbows.

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WTF?!? seriously dude.
How did Cung Le beat the <bleep> out of Smith... lets look at their faces after the fight ... please.







and Smith bleeds EASY.

Im a Le fan, but seriously... Le's performance has some serious FLASH, but Scott was never in any serious trouble... AT ALL.

How many shots did Scott land prior to this KO?
How about almost ZILCH!

Then the first connect Scott gets puts Le on the ground.
C'mon dude, this is a mma match not a kick demo... and this clearly shows that Le isnt in the mma elite.
This Le's kicks may look cool and be flashy but there is a reason they are not common place, pretty hard to argue against the fact that as cool as Le's made for movies kicks look, Smith's good old striking was much more effective.
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Yes youre right Cung was great in the Standup and looked phenomenal even through he took a break to do Movies. He destroyed Smith standing up, he had no answer for Cung Lee's attacks. And youre picture shows it very well how he demolished Smith with his Hammerfists on the ground. That was the moment were the fight could have easily stopped from the referee. Smith did nothing to defend himself he was laying and praying. You can compare this one to Jon Jones vs. Hamill were the fight should have been stopped as well before Bones trough the illegal elbows.

But you have youre opinion and I have mine. Maybe we agree on a different topic next time!

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Fair enuf... we can agree to disagree... peace

But I just cant agree with a stoppage at that point... Scott didnt seemed hurt at ANY point really.
He was on the ground mostly because he was off balance and he was 'pushed' down by a kick... not because he was 'rocked' and was 'dropped' to the ground.

The kicks that did land and 'looked' like they did damage, didnt really have much on them... or else they should have put Smith down... but they didnt.

example: this kick land flush right on the side of the head...


In the end, I think Smith 'knew' Le had nothing that could hurt him, walked him down and took what was his.
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This Le's kicks may look cool and be flashy but there is a reason they are not common place, pretty hard to argue against the fact that as cool as Le's made for movies kicks look, Smith's good old striking was much more effective.

But that doesn't change the fact, that Smith got outclassed in 2 1/2 rounds from Lee! Why didn't he use his so superior Striking earlier to avoid the punishment he took in the first 2 1/2 Rounds?? Becasue he didn't found a way!

Lee would have easily won that fight via unanimous decision if he would have stayed into training then doing movies.
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Le took the punishment not Smith, frankly I think Smith bit into the hype and was intimidated especially considering Smith dropped his last fight and desperatly wanted to put himself back in the mix.
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LOL Le got beat by a C fighter. He looked like trash when getting pressure and his hands are horrible.

And that fight getting stopped?? LOL what a noob. There ws minimal damage and he was defending himself... because barely anything landed LOLOLOLOL.
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Fair enuf... we can agree to disagree... peace

But I just cant agree with a stoppage at that point... Scott didnt seemed hurt at ANY point really.
He was on the ground mostly because he was off balance and he was 'pushed' down by a kick... not because he was 'rocked' and was 'dropped' to the ground.

The kicks that did land and 'looked' like they did damage, didnt really have much on them... or else they should have put Smith down... but they didnt.

example: this kick land flush right on the side of the head...


In the end, I think Smith 'knew' Le had nothing that could hurt him, walked him down and took what was his.
Yes the discussion with the right stoppage will go on, it came up big again after the Jon Jones fight. It's not easy for a referee to find the right moment. Many people said after the DQ from Jones that the fight should have been stopped already until those illegal elbows came down. And Hamill did the dame thing like Smith just lay and pray.

And yes Smith is known for taking huge punishment, that might be the key why. It's a tough dude thats for sure. But if you can't finsih a guy you have to win it with points wich he would if he wouldn't stopped fighting for nearly a year for doing low budget movies
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But that doesn't change the fact, that Smith got outclassed in 2 1/2 rounds from Lee! Why didn't he use his so superior Striking earlier to avoid the punishment he took in the first 2 1/2 Rounds?? Becasue he didn't found a way!

Lee would have easily won that fight via unanimous decision if he would have stayed into training then doing movies.
Heh, Scott didnt have 'superior' striking... he had more effective striking.
Again... how many strikes did Scott land the entire fight compared to Le (its Le btw, not Lee... of Vietnamese origin...not Chinese).

Scott got out 'scored'... if this was a point based Sanshou match, it was all Le... but this was a full contact mma bout... where you gotta be able to receive it as well as you dish it out.

I agree, Le would have won easily by UD had he just evaded and danced away the last 2 minutes.
But it was gonna be inevitable that he would run into someone that would land something in the future.
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And yes Smith is known for taking huge punishment, that might be the key why. It's a tough dude thats for sure. But if you can't finsih a guy you have to win it with points wich he would if he wouldn't stopped fighting for nearly a year for doing low budget movies
Heh... Dont get me wrong... I luv me some crazy sanshou moves in the cage... but Im realistic about his standing/ranking among the mma elite.

Also, Smith has been stopped before... by strikes... so really, this just puts into perspective what Cung brings to the table. He can out-point you any day of the week... so maybe full contact isnt where he belongs
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