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Old 12-31-2006, 08:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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JKD isn't just taking from multiple arts (that is what Mixed Martial Arts is), it was specific moves that Bruce Lee took from different martial arts and combined into his one system.
Oh, sorry. I said I didn't know much about it, lol.
I read up on JKD a little bit, and it's a little wierd. It doesn't seem like a style, really. Each individual practitioner can add his own thing to his fighting style, and can adapt at will. No Katas, just all out sparring. It doesn't really seem like a style, just a self-defense class where you can do whatever's necessary to survive. The idea is really good, but how much can one person accomplish, you know? One practitioner might stress more on stand-up fighting, while another might be mostly ground. It's wierd. And if you try evening it out, you won't really be a good fighter until you practice for a very long time. Dunno, I might be wrong, just my thoughts. Don't kill me for them. XD
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Go for a mixture of boxing and BJJ if you want to be able to spar more and possibly compete. A few months of MMA will be adequate for basic self-defense, and you'll have the opportunity to participate in the sport of MMA.
Yeah, except I would replace boxing with Muay Thai. To get some kicking in there...just in case. You really don't use many kicks in real street defense...and I don't mean you can't use them against some punk that messed with you at school, lol. I mean like when you're confronted by a dude you've never seen before, or if you step on someone's foot in a party.

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P.S. I'm new to this stuff, too. So everything I've posted so far might be completely wrong. However, I think that's the right way to go...it goes well with everything I've ever read or everything anyone's ever told me.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, except I would replace boxing with Muay Thai. To get some kicking in there...just in case. You really don't use many kicks in real street defense...and I don't mean you can't use them against some punk that messed with you at school, lol. I mean like when you're confronted by a dude you've never seen before, or if you step on someone's foot in a party.
Muay Thai teaches more than just kicks and punches though, it teaches the clinch (which is extremely important in MMA). If you learn that through Muay Thai (instead of Judo, they take different philosophies on it) then if you were in the situation like you mentioned and you couldn't use a kick you could always get into a clinch and then knee the hell out of the person. If you're going against somebody completely oblivious to martial arts (especially anything with a clinch such as MMA, Kyokushin Karate, Muay Thai, etc.) then you should be able to get some knees to the head and end the fight early. If the person knows what to do, you should be able to get some knees to the gut of the person and then work from there.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I am going to have to go with the old Colt 45 and a CCW.
Haha, that's one way to go, on a more legal standpoint get a tazer, those are lots of fun.
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Haha, that's one way to go, on a more legal standpoint get a tazer, those are lots of fun.
if you carry, and pull something out, to use a tazer is the worst thing in the world, you must wait for them to come within your 25 ft range, then if you miss your ****ed, "the slowest time recorded at the 2006 combine was 5.41 seconds by offensive lineman Josh Hall" this is the slowest time for the 40, done by a 300lbs man, that ran 4.8 times farther than the range of your tazer.... one shot you think you can reload that fast, what if there is more that one target????
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Old 01-07-2007, 01:19 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Well, it's fun if you DO hit. Lol.
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:10 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I wouldnt do any grappeling art for self defense and this is coming from a grappler ...

Alot of people make the mistake of going BJJ for self defense but as I posted in another thread all of these grappeling martial arts are assuming that your only dealing with one attacker. To deal with multiple attackers in a grappeling situation you need to be very skilled and very conditioned. Ive done 2 person drills before in judo and jj. They wear you out five times faster then rolling with some one.

Thats how I used to prepare for tournaments. The problem is this in a real life situation if your fighting with one person on the ground their freind isnt going to say ok its a fair fight. If your fighting some one chances are they were looking for it and if they are that type of person most likely their freinds are too. So if you get some one in the mount and you go for a submition the freind will beat the crap out of you.

Also alot of people dont have that killer instinct that you need for street grappeling. people will put a person in the arm bar but they wont put forth the pressure it takes to finish the arm shoulder ankle or what ever your attacking with the exception of chokes.

in a street situation you want to stay on your feet so you always have the run away option if things get to dicey.

your best bet is some dirty style of fighting like krav maga . You have to keep in mind that the average person doesnt know shit about fighting or martial arts. So forms like krav maga will train you in 4 months to be able to take out most people on the street because most people dont know crap about strikes or defending.

So if you can cover decently and throw a couple of strikes decently you will devestate normal people
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Old 01-07-2007, 02:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I wouldnt do any grappeling art for self defense and this is coming from a grappler ...

Alot of people make the mistake of going BJJ for self defense but as I posted in another thread all of these grappeling martial arts are assuming that your only dealing with one attacker. To deal with multiple attackers in a grappeling situation you need to be very skilled and very conditioned. Ive done 2 person drills before in judo and jj. They wear you out five times faster then rolling with some one.

Thats how I used to prepare for tournaments. The problem is this in a real life situation if your fighting with one person on the ground their freind isnt going to say ok its a fair fight. If your fighting some one chances are they were looking for it and if they are that type of person most likely their freinds are too. So if you get some one in the mount and you go for a submition the freind will beat the crap out of you.

Also alot of people dont have that killer instinct that you need for street grappeling. people will put a person in the arm bar but they wont put forth the pressure it takes to finish the arm shoulder ankle or what ever your attacking with the exception of chokes.

in a street situation you want to stay on your feet so you always have the run away option if things get to dicey.

your best bet is some dirty style of fighting like krav maga . You have to keep in mind that the average person doesnt know shit about fighting or martial arts. So forms like krav maga will train you in 4 months to be able to take out most people on the street because most people dont know crap about strikes or defending.

So if you can cover decently and throw a couple of strikes decently you will devestate normal people
i too am a grapple judo/bjj, but with a touch of boxing, due to sport jujitsu. pulling guard is a very bad idea. i keep almost all street fights on my feet, i will pound it out, then i will grab and grip fight, releasing to punch, arm drag you into a knee, and if i throw i will grip my hands around you. as for more than one attacker i would try to find an exit, keeping out of the circle would be my main tactic. most that attack in groups are done by scared, weak people.

your main weapon in any fight is the ability to stay calm and think.
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Old 01-07-2007, 04:47 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Street fight?
Kick to the nuts, strike to the throat, aim to break something, then make a swift exit.

If Bas Rutten says to kick to the nuts, then IMO thats a manly way to win, if you disagree talk to Bas, i dare you.
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Old 01-07-2007, 07:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I think it all depends on where you are. If you're in a crowded area I think (for legal reasons) grappling is better. If you're alone with the person in a dark alley, then standing up is the way to go.

The reason I think grappling is better in situations with more people around is simple, if people can identify then there can be criminal charges against you. If you stand and strike with an attacker, you may get "caught in the moment" or for whatever reason take it a step to far and throw a punch or kick that was "unneccesary" in your defense. Now with a crowd as a witness the attacker can go ahead and get assualt charges on you and you get screwed (it's happened before). If you grapple, you either choke the attacker into unconciousness and get away or you break the limb (or small joints if you're used to non-sport grappling) and you make your get away. All your doing is disabling the attacker from being able to do more damage to you. You aren't taking it too far. The problem comes like mrmyz said, the non "killer instinct" and not extending to break the limb/tendon in your submissions.
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