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Old 01-08-2007, 11:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I went to a school that taught a bunch of different self defense techniques all in one class. I did it for nine years. They called it Tae Kwon Do but it was so much more. We had kickboxing, judo, Hapkido, JKD also. The TKD was the least effective in a street fight. The only thing TKD helps you with is it teaches you the correct way to punch and kick so that it causes a lot of damage no matter how small or weak you are. It also helps with reflexes but so does every other MA. I found that the Hapkido and JKD were the most effective in street fights. After 9 years of that stuff I can anticipate a punch before it comes and I have fast enough reflexes to deflect it and submit the opponent right away using joint manipulation much like the guy in the video. He is a little better than me though . All that stuff you saw in the video does work very well in street fights, I know from experience. I have been in 3 street fights and all 3 of them ended withing the first 2 minutes because I had my opponent's arms or wrists in a position to where I could break them if I wanted. One guy said "ok ok I give up dude" so I let him go, then he threw a punch at me again when my guard was down. I deflected it just like I did the first time (which is how I know I have good reflexes) and flipped him over my shoulder and when he landed he was already in a position to get his arm broken. I am 5'8'' and like 140 lbs and this guy was at least 6 foot and at least 190 pounds. I didn't think I was gonna execute the throw correctly at first, cuz I have never used it in a street fight before, but it worked out good for me and I gave his arm a good crank and punched him in the nose. He was the only guy I have ever had the chance to get a punch in on in a street fight. All the others were over basically as soon as they took a swing at me. I credit all my MA training to those 3 successful and quick street fights.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:00 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Best for Self-Defense? Short of a firearm, a can of pepper spray backed up with a folding baton. After you practice CQC tactics, start doing 2 mile runs for time, because you will want to know how to get the hell out of the situation. In fact, if you drive, install a remote starter and power locks. That'll help you get out of there even faster.

Aside from that, learn how to actively avoid bad situations. Common sense goes a long way in prolonging one's life.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:06 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Best for Self-Defense? Short of a firearm, a can of pepper spray backed up with a folding baton. After you practice CQC tactics, start doing 2 mile runs for time, because you will want to know how to get the hell out of the situation. In fact, if you drive, install a remote starter and power locks. That'll help you get out of there even faster.

Aside from that, learn how to actively avoid bad situations. Common sense goes a long way in prolonging one's life.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:22 AM   #24 (permalink)
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best for self defence just hurt there weak spot, there testicals!

just stick your hand down their pants, grab there nuts and sqeeze till they explode. its actually pretty easy to stick your hand down someones pants in a real fight and once you have there nuts its over.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:23 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:36 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I think it all depends on where you are. If you're in a crowded area I think (for legal reasons) grappling is better. If you're alone with the person in a dark alley, then standing up is the way to go.

The reason I think grappling is better in situations with more people around is simple, if people can identify then there can be criminal charges against you. If you stand and strike with an attacker, you may get "caught in the moment" or for whatever reason take it a step to far and throw a punch or kick that was "unneccesary" in your defense. Now with a crowd as a witness the attacker can go ahead and get assualt charges on you and you get screwed (it's happened before). If you grapple, you either choke the attacker into unconciousness and get away or you break the limb (or small joints if you're used to non-sport grappling) and you make your get away. All your doing is disabling the attacker from being able to do more damage to you. You aren't taking it too far. The problem comes like mrmyz said, the non "killer instinct" and not extending to break the limb/tendon in your submissions.
Ok.. lets say the fight goes to the ground, and the other guy is on top of you, you go for a submission..
What do you think hes friends will do when they see you choke him out?
they will most likely stomp you in the head over and over again.. well then your ****ed
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Ok.. lets say the fight goes to the ground, and the other guy is on top of you, you go for a submission..
What do you think hes friends will do when they see you choke him out?
they will most likely stomp you in the head over and over again.. well then your ****ed
I'd try to defend the grappling side of self-defense more but I really can't for two reasons: 1.) I haven't trained in it and have never been in a fight where I've used it and 2.) until recently I was like you and didn't think grappling was the way to go but people on a message board convinced me (but they banned me from the message board because of my political stance) so I can't get any more ideas from them.

I think that grappling has it benefits in self-defense (and so does striking) so it isn't a black and white thing where only striking works or only grappling work, which is why I suggested the original poster take Hapkido because they teach some grappling and joint manipulations along with chokes, throws and striking.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:33 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Krav is excellent for self defense very brutal has no other applications then doing serios damage to some with as little effort as possile.. if you are looking for strict self defense do the Krav 1st then add something else to it if you want "More style"
As for JKD.. it is very hard to find real JKD teachers and places for teh simple fact bruce only allowed very few select people to teach it and they all had the understanding.. IT WAS NOT COMPLETE. Brue Lee the ever perfectionist was constantly changing and adapting what he knew to make it more effiecent and effective. JKD was designed to be quick and effective in a REAL fight.. it was never intented to be used in competitions hence not many JKD people do well in Martial arts competitions including MMA, though the mental aspects of JKD such as learing on to think on your feet and change instantly with the situation are very good.. as stated.. not many qualified experts out there to teach it.. regardless of what the shingle on the door says.. TO give you an Idea.. Kareem Abdual, Chuck Norris, Bill Wallace all trained with Bruce.. among other big names.. None walking around claiming to be able to teach it because they all knew bruce was not done with it.. There was still alot to go.. but if you do find one of the few qualified people, it is a good art to take.
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:28 PM   #30 (permalink)
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