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Old 12-20-2009, 01:13 PM   #21 (permalink)

 
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The fight was great to watch but really illustrated just how far from the top guys in the sport they really are. Big wide open slug fests are great to watch but its the exact same reason Diego go the beating of a lifetime from Penn, a good fighter will hit you 20 times, a great fighter will hit you 20 times before you hit him.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:46 AM   #22 (permalink)
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The fight was great to watch but really illustrated just how far from the top guys in the sport they really are. Big wide open slug fests are great to watch but its the exact same reason Diego go the beating of a lifetime from Penn, a good fighter will hit you 20 times, a great fighter will hit you 20 times before you hit him.
I don't think so in this case. Gilbert and Josh were training partners for a long time as well as good friends. They know eachothers style, timing, power and rythem...

If you watch them fight other compeditors they aren't throwing caution to the wind like that. This fight was a bit more personal...

I think Gilbert and Josh would tear up more than half of the UFC and Dream LW divison.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:57 AM   #23 (permalink)
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The fight was great to watch but really illustrated just how far from the top guys in the sport they really are. Big wide open slug fests are great to watch but its the exact same reason Diego go the beating of a lifetime from Penn, a good fighter will hit you 20 times, a great fighter will hit you 20 times before you hit him.
I disagree, these two guys are very talented. Definitely not Penn level but you can consider them both elite by any means. Sure Penn would demolish either, but both these guys would give lots of the UFC guys a solid run.
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Sure Penn would demolish either, but both these guys would give lots of the UFC guys a solid run.
TBH outside of Penn the UFC LWs aren't too great...I could see Melendez, Thompson, Aoki, Eddie Alvarez, Masvidal, Kawajiri and a few others owning them.
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The fight was great to watch but really illustrated just how far from the top guys in the sport they really are. Big wide open slug fests are great to watch but its the exact same reason Diego go the beating of a lifetime from Penn, a good fighter will hit you 20 times, a great fighter will hit you 20 times before you hit him.
I agree with you! People who consider this fight the best of the year aren't really into MMA in my opinion. This one was so far away of being the best fight this year. It was entertaining no doupt about it! Really the best example for this is Guida vs. Sanchez. I call fights like that a professional brawl

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TBH outside of Penn the UFC LWs aren't too great...I could see Melendez, Thompson, Aoki, Eddie Alvarez, Masvidal, Kawajiri and a few others owning them.
Melendez, Thompson and fighters like Aoki could all fight for the belt in the LW devision in the UFC. I consider them to be at the same level with the likes of Sanchez, Stevenson and Florian.
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TBH outside of Penn the UFC LWs aren't too great...I could see Melendez, Thompson, Aoki, Eddie Alvarez, Masvidal, Kawajiri and a few others owning them.
Who are they gonna own? Aoki wouldn't be able to get any of the top level guys down and frankly even Joe Stevenson with his little T-rex arms could pummel Shinya Aoki. I think Alvarez is pretty legit but I think he would roll through Melendez and Thompson as well.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:27 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Who are they gonna own? Aoki wouldn't be able to get any of the top level guys down and frankly even Joe Stevenson with his little T-rex arms could pummel Shinya Aoki. I think Alvarez is pretty legit but I think he would roll through Melendez and Thompson as well.
I can't think of a single guy in the UFC LW division that Aoki couldn't pull guard on.


And seriously you don't think that Thomson, Aoki, Alvarez, etc couldn't beat Stevenson, Guida, Edgar...?
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lol did anyone see those stats they threw a riddiculous amount of punches!

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Who are they gonna own? Aoki wouldn't be able to get any of the top level guys down and frankly even Joe Stevenson with his little T-rex arms could pummel Shinya Aoki. I think Alvarez is pretty legit but I think he would roll through Melendez and Thompson as well.
ditto! aoki is a little overated...and if he ever got into the ring with Penn im sorry but id personally call in the UN and have the UFC and penn indicted to the Hague for Crimes against humanity.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:08 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Who are they gonna own? Aoki wouldn't be able to get any of the top level guys down and frankly even Joe Stevenson with his little T-rex arms could pummel Shinya Aoki. I think Alvarez is pretty legit but I think he would roll through Melendez and Thompson as well.
It seems to me that if Aoki can sub Hansen and Alvarez, then he can definitely sub a lot of top UFC guys. I understand why people doubt him, seeing as how his standup is pretty pathetic, but hell, so is Damien Maia's, yet nobody bags on him the same way. I don't get it?
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It seems to me that if Aoki can sub Hansen and Alvarez, then he can definitely sub a lot of top UFC guys. I understand why people doubt him, seeing as how his standup is pretty pathetic, but hell, so is Damien Maia's, yet nobody bags on him the same way. I don't get it?
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Also though, I think Maia has way better MMA jiu jitsu, and I'd like to think I'm not too UFC biased.
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