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Old 01-09-2010, 07:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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it's a metaphor, none of them are claiming that being in the octagon is the same as being shot at. ease up on the insecurity, guys.

Just as a counter argument though, many soldiers never see combat. Does that mean they aren't warriors?
like i said at lest they went and were willing to go to WAR.
with i think is a key factor in being a Warrior is going to WAR.
it's that simple.
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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like i said at lest they went and were willing to go to WAR.
with i think is a key factor in being a Warrior is going to WAR.
it's that simple.
Did the recent Iraq conflict ever get declared a war? I can't remember if it ever did, I know it wasn't for a long time. If not, does that mean the soldiers there were not warriors?

I got medd'ed out of the Army 6 weeks into basic at Ft Jackson after an asthma attack. Am I a warrior? I was going to be a linguist (most likely Mandarin, because of my high language scores on the ASVAB), and likely would never have gotten anywhere near an armed conflict, if that makes a difference.

Just trying to get some clarification.
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Did the recent Iraq conflict ever get declared a war? I can't remember if it ever did, I know it wasn't for a long time. If not, does that mean the soldiers there were not warriors?

I got medd'ed out of the Army 6 weeks into basic at Ft Jackson after an asthma attack. Am I a warrior? I was going to be a linguist (most likely Mandarin, because of my high language scores on the ASVAB), and likely would never have gotten anywhere near an armed conflict, if that makes a difference.

Just trying to get some clarification.
listen i'm sorry you never made it out of basic, but for guy like me who went and fought for there country and saw combat YES we are warriors. just to let you know america has not declared war since world war 2. so no me and the guys i fight with don't consider guys that don't fight Warriors we call the POGS (People other than Grunts) a lot of people in the military sign up just to change there life and get money for college, not to fight so they go to supply, cook, Motor T, and admin. all the guys i served with went in knowing we were going to fight and we did.

guys that die and fight in a combat conflict (withers declared war or not) are Warriers and have earned that tittle. not the guys behind the wire doing inventory or fixing hum Vs.
and definitely not professional athletes who are in a controlled environment with safety regulation and rules.

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Old 01-09-2010, 08:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
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listen i'm sorry you never made it out of basic, but for guy like me who went and fought for there country and saw combat YES we are warriors. just to let you know america has not declared war since world war 2. so no me and the guys i fight with don't consider guys that don't fight Warriors we call the POGS (People other than Grunts) a lot of people in the military sign up just to change there life and get money for college, not to fight so they go to supply, cook, Motor T, and admin. all the guys i served with went in knowing we were going to fight and we did.

guys that die and fight in a combat conflict (withers declared war or not) are Worriers and have earned that tittle. not the guys behind the wire doing inventory or fixing hum Vs.
and definitely not professional athletes who are in a controlled environment with safety regulation and rules.
Darn. Sounds like even if I hadn't been discharged, I wouldn't have been a real warrior. :/

PS, Man, I'm sorry, but I can't help but laugh every time you spell "warriors" as "worriers". That's a hilarious typo... if you didn't have such an old join date I'd think you were a clever troll :P
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Darn. Sounds like even if I hadn't been discharged, I wouldn't have been a real warrior. :/

PS, Man, I'm sorry, but I can't help but laugh every time you spell "warriors" as "worriers". That's a hilarious typo... if you didn't have such an old join date I'd think you were a clever troll :P
Thanks i'm really bad at spelling.
and it not to say if the $hit hit the fan and a POG had to jump on a M2 and get some he would be a warrior because he decided to fight.
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Being a warrior has more to do with fighting or competeing. Just being in the military doesn't make you a warrior. I believe it comes more to a mans spirit and inner self. If you read The Art Of War. You will find and see how a true warrior should act and present himself. Bushido also tells all of what a true warrior is and should be. There are several fighters out there that do and do not fit that mold. For instance Randy Couture acts like a true warrior. Lyoto Machida acts like a ture warrior. Renzo Gracie acts like a ture warrior, rent or buy Legacy the Renzo gracie doc and you will see how a warrior of the 21st century is pictured.
I believe there are professional soldiers who fill this roll to, SEALs, DELTA, Rangers. But then again some of them might not. It all depends on how that person see himself and believes in his potential as a warrior.
i hope this isn't to much phlosiphy cause im not really into that but its what i believe
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Being a warrior has more to do with fighting or competeing. Just being in the military doesn't make you a warrior. I believe it comes more to a mans spirit and inner self. If you read The Art Of War. You will find and see how a true warrior should act and present himself. Bushido also tells all of what a true warrior is and should be. There are several fighters out there that do and do not fit that mold. For instance Randy Couture acts like a true warrior. Lyoto Machida acts like a ture warrior. Renzo Gracie acts like a ture warrior, rent or buy Legacy the Renzo gracie doc and you will see how a warrior of the 21st century is pictured.
I believe there are professional soldiers who fill this roll to, SEALs, DELTA, Rangers. But then again some of them might not. It all depends on how that person see himself and believes in his potential as a warrior.
i hope this isn't to much phlosiphy cause im not really into that but its what i believe
Listen the fact is you can belive any thing you want but the fact are what makes you a warrior is going to war and fighting. ITS THAT SIMPLE
not what some book says how to act. did viking, Spartans, or even Nazi soldiers fill the book roll? and all of them no mater what you think were warriors.

Vikings - pillaged and raped
Nazi Soldiers did horrible thing

but both were grate at WAR and they were Warriors.

i know to a lot of people its just a saying but to people that have been there and actually see combat its not.

if were going to let them say there Warriors why not RAP artiest that do it to. or Football players. or any one that has any type of fame why not.
you can call your self what ever you want. but the fact is there is a big deference between fighting and Killing a person

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Old 01-09-2010, 09:56 PM   #18 (permalink)
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it's a metaphor, none of them are claiming that being in the octagon is the same as being shot at. ease up on the insecurity, guys.

Just as a counter argument though, many soldiers never see combat. Does that mean they aren't warriors?
Precisely. You have to take it in context.
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Well since the word warrior comes from the old north french word werreieur which means to make war, and werre which means war.
I'd think that being a warrior might have something to do with actually being at war.
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I don't think they (the fighters) mean true warriors, like others have said I believe it is a metaphor. And I am certain that men and women in the Armed Forces deserve the title "Hero" over "Warrior" any day. But that's just me.
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