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Old 01-09-2010, 05:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are MMA fighters "warriors"?

Last night I was in a bar in downtown Boston. There were several MMA tough guys knocking back drinks and acting like meatheads. Of course, it goes without saying, that everyone of them were decked out from head to toe in Tap Out gear and of course they were all tatooed along their arms. I got to talking to this tough guy group and our discussion soon turned into a full blown argument as to whether MMA fighters are "warriors".

Of course this group of MMA fighters were telling me that of course they are warriors and they should be respected as such. Of course none of them could really articulate any reasons of significant to bolster their case. I don't think any of them had gone to college. Instead they were focusing their life aspirations on more important things than education, like learning good mixed martial arts which was obviously of paramount importance for these young fools.

Anyway, here's what I was saying last night. If you are a MMA fighter and you consider yourself a "warrior" you are an absolute idiot. Let me explain something to all of you. You are not warriors. If you were true warriors you would sign yourself up for the military and go fight in a war in the Middle East. You know, actually put yourself in danger. Instead the MMA fighter chooses to take off his shirt and pants and roll around on the mat and cuddle with other men. If and when they get hurt, tap! A quick little girly tap and the pain is all over. Simple and safe.

Meanwhile the real men, the real warriors in this world are standing a post in a hostile country risking their lives.

In other words, MMA is absolutely safe. The most that is going to happen to you is a bloody lip, a black eye, maybe a sore back. Therefore, you ARE NOT warriors! And to consider yourself as warriors is so totally disrespectful of real warriors, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I think I'd rather watch a chicken or cock or dog fight than watch MMA boys slip and slide with each other any more. At least in those fights the animal is risking its life, fighting for it all. You should be embarrassed to be as into MMA as some of you are.

Thank you and of course I say all of this respectfully.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I see it as a sport, the intro in the ufc with all the gladiator stuff just annoys the hell out of me. They are athletes not warriors
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Yes that was extremely respectful.

I don't think it's fair to meet some people and consider all mma practitioners or fans to be the same.

And in some aspects, what do warriors do and what do mma artists do?
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Depends on how you define "Warrior." May sound disrespectful but you argue men fighting in a cage with rules doesn't make you a warrior I can argue shooting at someone from 150 yards away doesn't make you a warrior either. (Devil's Advocate no disrespects to the armed forces.)

Just sounds to me like you have a real chip on your shoulder, either that or you are just a Troll. I'm going for the latter.

And if you are not a Troll (giving you the benefit of the doubt here) most fighters aren't "meatheads." Every mma practitioner I know is very nice and down to earth, and most have some form off higher education like University or college, actually in a few years I will be a qualified Structural Engineer.
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What do warriors do and what do MMA artists do?

Well, warriors risk their lives in battle, in the case of soldiers for the safety of their country.

What do MMA artists do? They work incessantly on their physiques, they get scary tattoos on their bodies and go bald from steroid use, they where cool Tap Out gear, and they take off all their clothes and roll around on mats with other barely clothed men. When things get rough they scream out or they tap out like little girls. Why? Because they surely don't want to get hurt.

Are MMA fighters athletes? Absolutely, no question about it. Are they warriors worthy of respect? Absolutely not.
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What do warriors do and what do MMA artists do?

Well, warriors risk their lives in battle, in the case of soldiers for the safety of their country.

What do MMA artists do? They work incessantly on their physiques, they get scary tattoos on their bodies and go bald from steroid use, they where cool Tap Out gear, and they take off all their clothes and roll around on mats with other barely clothed men. When things get rough they scream out or they tap out like little girls. Why? Because they surely don't want to get hurt.

Are MMA fighters athletes? Absolutely, no question about it. Are they warriors worthy of respect? Absolutely not.
Thank you for that post, now I know you are a troll
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Lol, i doubt you said this to any of their faces and had all your pent up little patriotic rant put out on the internet instead.

To be a good fighter, you have to have mindset of a warrior. you have to go in like an animal or else your probably going to lose. they put themselves at risk every fight and dedicate their lives to advance their combat skills. they are the picked out besti n the world at hand to hand combat and ground fighting... what part of that doesnt make them a warrior?

by the way, going off to iraq to be a puppet of an imperialistic regime doesnt make you a damn warrior. we are the usurpers in this situation, we want something that is theirs and they dont want to give it to us. so we **** up their whole country!

im not saying there isnt warriors in the army, people who do heroic things in the name of good and in saving fellow soldiers are definitley warriors... but nowadays any kid can decide to go off to iraq and 'kill some turrists' while sitting behind some controls, pushing buttons to kill people. In my opinion, a ufc fighter who has heart is much more of a warrior than a kid like this
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What do warriors do and what do MMA artists do?

Well, warriors risk their lives in battle, in the case of soldiers for the safety of their country.

What do MMA artists do? They work incessantly on their physiques, they get scary tattoos on their bodies and go bald from steroid use, they where cool Tap Out gear, and they take off all their clothes and roll around on mats with other barely clothed men. When things get rough they scream out or they tap out like little girls. Why? Because they surely don't want to get hurt.

Are MMA fighters athletes? Absolutely, no question about it. Are they warriors worthy of respect? Absolutely not.

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NO in no way are they Worriers. I myself i'm a Marine in the Infantry and have two combat deployment in IRAQ. you see some guy in MMA complaining about being away from there families for training camp for a few months on the countdown or TUF shows. try being away from them for almost a year and have your family wake up every day think there loved ones are in harms way and can die.

they are in a sport and not trying to kill another man
WAR is all mental. you can be the tuffest strongest guy on the plant, but if you cant mentally be willing to put you life on the line and kill the enemy you in no way are Worrier

I respect the hell out of fighters but unless your name is Brian Stann or Tim Kennedy a better word to describe them is GLADIATORS

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Old 01-09-2010, 06:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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it's a metaphor, none of them are claiming that being in the octagon is the same as being shot at. ease up on the insecurity, guys.

Just as a counter argument though, many soldiers never see combat. Does that mean they aren't warriors?
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