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post #21 of 162 (permalink) Old 01-14-2010, 05:16 PM
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at least kongo had muay thai world championship creditials when you claimed he would easily outstrike Frank Mir.... now your saying some sloppy amateur boxer is going to.... because he is big?? He has no real boxing creditentials and isnt world class at anything, he is just big with alot of power, Mir would own him and it wouldnt even be close, ill take a bet for w/e amount of $ you have if this fight ever comes up. Even $?? sucker bet. Frank Mir was breaking limps, winning grappling and MMA titles and knocking fools out while this clown was still changing tires and prob had no idea what MMA was.

So I'm guessing you think Mir is somehow going to sub Rogers when Fedor couldn't? Or I guess you think Mir is going to knock him out.

I remember you being borderline racist before with your opinions of Rogers, that guy is intensely legit and if you can't see it then there's no need discussing it.

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Mir is a good fighter. top 5 IMO. JDS will smash him tho i reckon

I have never seen anything to suggest Fedor would lose to anyone, though i guess it could happen

makes me laugh when ppl say he will lose, and it makes me laugh when ppl try to explain why he will lose
I agree with you on Fedor. The guy is really good. He can be beat but it is going to take some luck.

In my opinion though I can't rank JDS higher than Frank yet because I have seen more of Frank skill set and all I have seen from JDS is good striking.

I enjoy Frank's stupid rambling on about how great he is. I think he is a very good fighter and Lesnar seems to have motivated him like GSP did to BJ and we know what that did.

I still like Carwin the best out of the heavyweights. He has solid wrestling and great knockout power. JDS is probably my second favorite in HW. If you can't tell I like fighters who finish their fights.
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So I'm guessing you think Mir is somehow going to sub Rogers when Fedor couldn't? Or I guess you think Mir is going to knock him out.

I remember you being borderline racist before with your opinions of Rogers, that guy is intensely legit and if you can't see it then there's no need discussing it.
where the hell do you get borderline racist from?? seriously...????? your the one that always says some silly "if he wasnt black with a mohawk ppl would respect him" bs.... Rampage is my fav fighter outside of Cain.... but w/e, i guess i dont like him cuz he is big and black

Mir could/would sub him. I dont know what the hell saying "when Fedor couldnt" means. They were on the ground for like 15 seconds and the second Fedor went for an armbar Rogers gave up dominant position just to slip it. Mir will eat him all day on the ground and now he is as big and likely as strong (stronger in grappling strength for sure).

Or.... Frank Mir would knock him out, like he rocked Minotauro, like he rocked Kongo... both of whom have better standup creditientals and more proof of high calibre striking then one flash KO and a string of cans even most hardcore fans dont even know.

Seriously i was the guy cheering the loudest when Brock made Frank look stupid on the biggest MMA stage ever. But something has changed about him. It's pretty clear imo he is working harder then almost every HW and is more dedicated and he is coming to rip off your neck or arm. I think that loss will do for Frank what Serra did for GSP or what GSP did for BJ. Frank is on another level now in terms of training and dedication. He always had the skills. His stand up has evovled and those that cant see that by now are missing the bus, the bus that is likely to land on your favorite fighters head sometime soon.

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I've tired of Mir's muleheadedness and his foolish ideas. But why hasn't been the link posted?

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The ONLY person that could beat Fedor in the UFC almost just had his career ended by an intestinal bug. Cain? Carwin? Garbage standup even though Carwin has power, but neither have a ground game.

Mir is apparently a world class boxer now. Not saying he doesn't have good hands for a UFC HW but I give him similar odds to what Barnett was given. He's well rounded but doesn't have it all put together into that fighting force we call Fedor.

The only guy in the UFC who has the size and has shown the speed and ability to use it devastatingly is Brock Lesnar. If he got on top of Fedor the fight could very well be over.

Still love it every time Mir opens his mouth though. And I think he takes Rogers pretty convincingly.
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So I'm guessing you think Mir is somehow going to sub Rogers when Fedor couldn't? Or I guess you think Mir is going to knock him out.

I remember you being borderline racist before with your opinions of Rogers, that guy is intensely legit and if you can't see it then there's no need discussing it.
He pokes holes in your argument, so you retreat and take shots at him personally...


Mir is right. Rogers, albeit a average boxer who has average mma skills, who is just big had Fedor up against the fence and got some good GnP. Just think of the big wrestlers in the HW division of the UFC. They get Fedor up against the cage, it is going to be Mir/Lesnar II all over.

And, Big Mir would sub Rogers in the 1st or KO him in the 1st. Mir is a better striker and grappler than Rogers will ever be.
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i really wish fedor didnt have handlers, and he could come to the ufc, and could show everyone , once and for all who is the best. by the time he will, he'll lose and we'll here the he's past his prime argument.

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A year ago Mir was saying that Fedor "is so well-rounded and he's the best", now he's trying to hype himself more and more by convincing everyone that Fedor is somewhere behind him. "I'm the best fighter in my weight class", what is this? Fedor is not in the UFC, so why does he feel like he has to comment on him all the time? But it won't last long because Carwin will beat Mir soon and then Frank will be saying that Carwin is #1 HW only because he beat him...

"He did however rank Fedor among the divisions elite alongside Brock Lesnar, Rodrigo Nogueira, Junior dos Santos, Cain Velasquez,"
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Didn't this 'Fedor being in trouble' result in two sub attempts and then Fedor getting back to his feet?

And right back at topic...

After having watched WEC 46 and not being annoyed by Frank for a change, I find it kind of sad that he just can't stop running his mouth. Especially sad since the new 265lbs Mir looked very promising in his last fight. He makes it really hard for me to like him.
It was a Q&A. He simply answered questions that were asked to him, and was spot on for the most part too. Also, like he said, if you aren't that confident in yourself then you shouldn't be in the octagon. What's he gonna say? "Yeah, Fedor would whoop my ass, hard!"??

Not sure where the Mir hate comes from. The guy is truthful and speaks his mind, I like that.
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Not sure where the Mir hate comes from. The guy is truthful and speaks his mind, I like that.
Yeah, but his opinion changes all the time. It's like he has no position and says only what Dana White says in the best interests of UFC. If prior to the fight with Lesnar he'd said that Fedor was the best, after the UFC 100 he publicly stated that Lesnar would crush him. Why? Because he just lost? He thinks that Fedor would lose because he did...

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