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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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01-31-2010, 03:13 AM
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He did well for his age and skillset but his opponent was a nobody and he'd get handled in the UFC. As they said in the lead-up, he is just here to prove someting before his time is up. Personally I don't begrudge him that, not every fighter has to be realistically capable of winning a title soon in order to be worth watching.
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His helmet was stifling, it narrowed his vision. And he must see far. His shield was heavy. It threw him off balance. And his target is far away.
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01-31-2010, 03:56 AM
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Doobie Doobie Doo...how's your Bud Ice?
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One can tell he's extremely green in all aspects of the sport. If it's a personal goal, great, but there should be a tester before you fight in an MMA organization. Strikeforce evidently wanted to cash in on the publicity.
With that being said Walker's physique and conditioning was quite impressive at 47. He's not ready for primetime. The fights that SF put on is C class.
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01-31-2010, 07:50 AM
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All the anouncers kept saying was 'how great he was doing' and 'how impressed they were'. Nagy shoots in or walks in for a TD and Walker stuffs it, and they are super impressed. I think they were trying to make it excitng, but man, were they ever over exagerating how good Walker was doing. Sideshow for sure. At this point judging by Walkers performance (against possibly the weakest fighter with lack of enthusiasm to fight ive ever seen) he would have been extremely lucky if he was fighting at a local noname tourney. Props to Walker but its getting hard to take SF seriously.
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01-31-2010, 08:46 AM
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On another note, if he wants to continue doing this he needs to learn how to cut weight because weighing 214 at HW is going to get him killed.
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01-31-2010, 10:01 AM
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People are being too hard on Herschel. I was a big naysayer in that I thought this was a complete joke. Here are my succinct thoughts
1. He donated to charity
2. He, at 47, stepped foot in the cage and won
3. Though not perfect, he was doing things that many amateurs have a very hard time doing:
A. Keeping cool and collected
B. Controlling the entire fight
C. Showing ground transitions that were relatively decent.
He looked much better than Kimbo who is younger and stronger. I would rather watch Walker than Kimbo at this point and give him a fair shot against a fighter like Kimbo.
Overall I am against attracting the Kimbos and Walker's of the world as evident by my numerous posts as to why it isn't good for the sport, but Walker really did his homework, did what he was expected to do considering it was his first time in the cage. At 47, despite any previous martial arts training, his reflexes and ability to take a punch are pretty shot. He was impressive considering nonetheless....
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01-31-2010, 10:38 AM
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wicked juggalo
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i cant find any fault with herschel walker, hes 47 and wanted to give MMA a chance. he didnt look like a world class fighter, but he did well and won. If there are any fighters from last night i would find problems with it would be his opponent Nagy, that guy just sucks, and Wes Sims, those 2 guys should be embarrassed by their performances last night.
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01-31-2010, 10:45 AM
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MMA Fanatic
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But I guess you gotta give respect to both Walker and Slice, they're both out there doing something they love, and it's good that they got name value so they're both in the top 2 of the big promotions and drawing huge numbers *Kimbo is, and I don't know right now but I would be shocked if Walker didn't draw a huge crowd of non-MMA fans, and old school football fans.
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01-31-2010, 12:01 PM
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 at some of the comments on here like "he would get thrashed if he went to ufc" or "I wasnt impressed by his performance" how long have y'all been into this sport? did you geniuses think he was a young up and coming mma fighter?  a man 3 years off 50 decided to moonlight as an mma fighter for a night and thoroughly neutralized what ever threat his opponent possessed, thats all that needs to be said..
To judge him on some other lofty merit is just foolish
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01-31-2010, 12:10 PM
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i was watching half hoping Hershel would snap into one of his more violent personalities. Alot of ppl dont know he has split personalites and stuff, the book he wrote about his mental issues was very interesting. All props to Hershel for chasing his dream, keep getting thrown around by Cain and your grappling is gonna improve very fast.
Cain needs to tell him to stop riding the mount so high and stop trying to pin an arm with your leg, just posture up and throw down!!
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01-31-2010, 12:21 PM
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...Gotta give Walker some love. The man is one of those rare athletes. All that he's accomplished. At 47 no matter how he really performed, it's a great accomplishment to do MMA. His opponent was pretty lousy though. Walker has some potential. Walker's biggest strenghts are his ground control (against a guy that could do a submission old Hersch would have been tapping) & legkicks. Bros- his legkicks were good. Walker has a great camp at AKA. As far as him being a top contender or champion, it's too far of a road...
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