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Tapping/Getting Put to Sleep 14 41.18%
Getting TKO'd/KO'd 20 58.82%
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Old 03-14-2010, 09:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Being knocked out by far. Just the fact that you wake up and immediately realize you just looked flopped like a fish in front of everyone is enough to make you contemplate quitting at times.

Being tapped out has never been humiliating, because I've never been extraordinary at grappling in the first place.

As a humble student who was submitted regularly in demonstration, it's hard to be humilated.
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Old 03-14-2010, 09:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Tapping, because unlike a KO, which can be excused by a glass jaw (that can't really be worked on for improvement), it is caused by a lack of skill which is more humiliating IMO.

EDIT: By lack of skill, I meant it in the sense that your opponent has more skill than you.
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Tapping, because unlike a KO, which can be excused by a glass jaw (that can't really be worked on for improvement), it is caused by a lack of skill which is more humiliating IMO.

EDIT: By lack of skill, I meant it in the sense that your opponent has more skill than you.
This is exactly the way I feel. If you get subbed it's due to your lack of skill or your opponent's surplus of it. Anyone can throw a punch and catch someone, it takes true skill and knowledge of the art form to submit someone regardless of how rudimentary it is.
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True, but because you are knocked out doesn't necessarily mean you just have a bad chin. I'm referring to not properly blocking like you are trained to do, which is also a lack of skill.

I guess it's the physical act of being unconscious that is the humiliating factor for me. I've always thought of being subbed as "to be expected". The only time I would be humiliated is if I was tapped by someone with no experience.
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I get what you're saying, but I can still write off a KO as "Ah shit, I got caught with a fluke punch that I would've blocked 9/10 times." and when I get subbed I know it's because the other guy was just better than me. If I'm getting owned standing? Then maybe, but I still feel getting tapped would be far more embarassing.
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Tapping, you're there right after, at least when you get KTFO you don't have to deal with the reaction right away and you don't really remember it.

Plus, anyone can get caught and put to sleep, if you get subbed that usually means you made a crucial mistake grappling.
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I guess it's the physical act of being unconscious that is the humiliating factor for me. I've always thought of being subbed as "to be expected". The only time I would be humiliated is if I was tapped by someone with no experience.
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Tapping, you're there right after, at least when you get KTFO you don't have to deal with the reaction right away and you don't really remember it.
I fully agree with both aspects and have to use them to reinforce my point here. Being put to sleep is the ultimate humiliation, because you know what's happening, you know you're in a bad position and your body gives up on you. Not only does it show that your skills are inferior, but it also makes you completely vulnerable by being unconscious.
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Tapping. I gaze at the ceiling in exasperation every time.

During my short span of jiu jitsu classes I got tapped out by this fat kid, I mean he was like 230lbs and 30lbs were his titties. That was about as bad as I can imagine the tapping part

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Being knocked out by far. Just the fact that you wake up and immediately realize you just looked flopped like a fish in front of everyone is enough to make you contemplate quitting at times.

Being tapped out has never been humiliating, because I've never been extraordinary at grappling in the first place.

As a humble student who was submitted regularly in demonstration, it's hard to be humilated.
It is humiliating I got KOed once and it was scary, humiliating, confusing oh and I cried like a bitch. Probably because that is the only time ive been KO'd and the only thing I have to relate to is why I also agree its much worse.

(i was 14 at the time)
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u can get caught in a fluke sub u would have avoided 9/10 aswell, that arguement doesnt hold weight.

when you get KO'd it flat out shortens your career. you can learn from subs and stuff and improve, if you cant take hits to the face, its very embarrassing.

your basically Marcus Jones.

i rather be Kimbo then Marcus Jones.
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I got a question...


Whats humiliating about either of those?? Personally.. i you go in there and fight the best you can i dont see how its humiliating to get subd or ko'd.

Thats just me i guess....
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