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Old 01-08-2007, 05:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fedor Impressive...Or Not? Opinions

I do nto knwo much abour Pride, so after hearing so much about Cro Cop, I looked up on him more. Found out what people are talking about. I also hear/read so much about Fedor. Seems like a lot of people pretty much worship the guy and talk as though he is dominant like no other fighter out there. So naturally I went on the net looking up some of his fights. I think I watched 3 or 4 fights, and none of them were reallt impressive. Sure, the ones I watched, he won, but not really impressively. I saw one from when he fought Babalu. It looked like it was an older fight, so I know someone will come up with a real lame excuse like he was young then or something supid like that, but I was not impressed with him at all. He did not look all that great in the fight. That doesn't say much considering Chuck took Sobral out 2 times by knockout, yet Fedor didn't do much to him in the fight.

Basically I was wanting some opinions on if this guy is really that impressive. I think he isn't. He might have a good record, but that doesn't make him impressive in my eyes. So other than the lame nuthugger types that will say he is god, what do you all think about him?
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ok heres the short explanation that you can understand easily..

you looked up crocop, and found him impressive right?
so that being said..
fedor beat crocop.

2+2=4
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I did not say I was impressed with Cro Cop. He has some pretty impressive fights though from what I have seen.

What I have seen from Fedor was not impressive.

2+2=4 but has nothing to do with Fedor. Just because he beat Cro Cop doesn't make him impressive. I have only seen I think 4 fights I watch a little bit ago. None of those were impressive wins.

The only fight I saw so far where dominated was against some fat black guy. Nothing impressive so far. I am going to keep looking.
I just wonder if I am the only one that doesn't think he is the greatest fighter.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I did not say I was impressed with Cro Cop. He has some pretty impressive fights though from what I have seen.

What I have seen from Fedor was not impressive.

2+2=4 but has nothing to do with Fedor. Just because he beat Cro Cop doesn't make him impressive. I have only seen I think 4 fights I watch a little bit ago. None of those were impressive wins.

The only fight I saw so far where dominated was against some fat black guy. Nothing impressive so far. I am going to keep looking.
I just wonder if I am the only one that doesn't think he is the greatest fighter.
You'd have to watch more than a few fights to see if someone is truly impressive or not. If you were to watch the 3rd Arlovski/Sylvia fight, you would think that Arlovski is a joke. But he's not. Since Filipovic is considered one of the top HW's in the world, I would say that Fedor beating him is pretty impressive.

Also, it's NOT a lame excuse to say that someone wasn't that good earlier in their careers due to age and/or experience. As with anything else in life, experience is important. It has EVERYTHING to do with being a successful fighter. You can have all the physical talent in the world, but you get better w/ experience.

I've only seen a few of Fedor's fights as well, but I am impressed with him. While I wouldn't dub him the greatest in the world, it's only b/c you can't truly say that about someone until they've fought competitors from around the world and different organizations.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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dont know why he doesnt impress u who are u simon cowell.fedor is undefeated in pride fc and not only that has beat every contender and beat them well.recently beating mark hunt mark coleman/zulu.lets put it this way name one fighter that would beat him
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Watch Fedor - Crocop
Fedor - Nogueira 1,2
The Babalu fight was 5 years ago man, Chuck got submitted byt Jeremy Horn 8 years ago, and at that time he was older than Fedor was druing the Babalu fight. Dont even try to compare. Lame excuse? You only have to make excuses for losers (aka chuck's losses to Horn, Jackson, Couture). I will never say chuck is unimpressive, but you have done very little research and your opinion is rash. You can believe whatever you want and accuse people of nuthuggery - but those same people will accuse you of hating. So a little more research before you make assumptions.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think that you would need to see more from him. And then everybody can have an off day. Look at Fedor against Hunt. Now a lot of people think Hunt is a god. Why? Because Fedor is excellant and Fedor has beat a lot of excellant fighters. Fedor has beaten guys who have been looked at as the best fighters in the world. Is that not impressive enough? I think when he starts pulling the judo/sambo out is when he is most impressive.
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I do nto knwo much abour Pride, so after hearing so much about Cro Cop, I looked up on him more. Found out what people are talking about. I also hear/read so much about Fedor. Seems like a lot of people pretty much worship the guy and talk as though he is dominant like no other fighter out there. So naturally I went on the net looking up some of his fights. I think I watched 3 or 4 fights, and none of them were reallt impressive. Sure, the ones I watched, he won, but not really impressively. I saw one from when he fought Babalu. It looked like it was an older fight, so I know someone will come up with a real lame excuse like he was young then or something supid like that, but I was not impressed with him at all. He did not look all that great in the fight. That doesn't say much considering Chuck took Sobral out 2 times by knockout, yet Fedor didn't do much to him in the fight.

Basically I was wanting some opinions on if this guy is really that impressive. I think he isn't. He might have a good record, but that doesn't make him impressive in my eyes. So other than the lame nuthugger types that will say he is god, what do you all think about him?
ok i dont mean to be rude but you must be completely undeducated when it comes to mma fighters if you think Fedor is unimpressive. I know its your opinion, but in this instance, your opinion is wrong and should not be aired.

What 4 fights have you watched? you watched a fight with Sobral, if you knew anything about mma, you would know that the fight was fought under "Rings" rule, where you cannot strike to the face when on the floor. Hence Fedors main strenght is ground and pound.

If you really want to see Fedor. Then see how he dominated Noguiera in both fights. (Nog would easily be ufc hw champ). Watch him beat Crocop who is a world class kickboxer and probably has the best takedown defence out of all fighters (he will be ufc hw champ soon). Watch him beat Mark Hunt with a broken toe going into the fight. Watch how he shrugs of a brutal slam by Randleman then submit him a minute later. Then watch him destroy, Schilt, Goodridge, Herring, Coleman (twice) and Fujita.

If after all of this you are still unimpressed with Fedor, then you should go back to watching Big Daddy fight Giant Haystack
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johnnybravo hit it right on. You probably saw the Babalu and Arona fights which were under Rings rules and eliminate Fedors main strength. Plus, that was along time ago and his stand up and subs have evolved a ton since then. Watch the fights johnnybravo listed and you'll see what we all mean.

If you still dont think Fedor is the most impressive fighter in all mma after you watch these I will call you an idiot.
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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ok i dont mean to be rude but you must be completely undeducated when it comes to mma fighters if you think Fedor is unimpressive. I know its your opinion, but in this instance, your opinion is wrong and should not be aired.

What 4 fights have you watched? you watched a fight with Sobral, if you knew anything about mma, you would know that the fight was fought under "Rings" rule, where you cannot strike to the face when on the floor. Hence Fedors main strenght is ground and pound.

If you really want to see Fedor. Then see how he dominated Noguiera in both fights. (Nog would easily be ufc hw champ). Watch him beat Crocop who is a world class kickboxer and probably has the best takedown defence out of all fighters (he will be ufc hw champ soon). Watch him beat Mark Hunt with a broken toe going into the fight. Watch how he shrugs of a brutal slam by Randleman then submit him a minute later. Then watch him destroy, Schilt, Goodridge, Herring, Coleman (twice) and Fujita.

If after all of this you are still unimpressed with Fedor, then you should go back to watching Big Daddy fight Giant Haystack
I agree, the fights you saw were his least impressive watch him **** Goodrich thats funny, and herring is funny too
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