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Choke_Wire 01-10-2007 07:04 PM

Does being a Jerk help you as a fighter?
 
I was just thinking about this. Does being a jerk give your some sort of edge over a more plesent fighter. I know it dosnt make you better than everyone else (GSP vs Matt would be an example). But could it give you a mental edge over some fighters? Is there anyway to truly tell

DrVanNostrand 01-10-2007 07:37 PM

i think it only affects the weak...im sure wandys staredowns alter his opponents mindset from time to time...but after he kills someone, hes all smiles...another example would be fedor vs. ogawa...ogawa thought he was sick being all cocky, but fedor wasnt fazed and sub'd his big arse...and it also brings the viewers/fans into it emotionally..just my opinion...

I.P.Freely 01-10-2007 07:43 PM

Being a jerk is likely to give you extra confidence and agression, which might help. But there are plenty of fighters out there who aren't jerks at all, including Fedor and Geogre "Can I say something else, please, Mr. Rogan" St. Pierre.

kishiro 01-10-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Choke_Wire
I was just thinking about this. Does being a jerk give your some sort of edge over a more plesent fighter. I know it dosnt make you better than everyone else (GSP vs Matt would be an example). But could it give you a mental edge over some fighters? Is there anyway to truly tell

i believe some fighters act this way thinking it will make them more marketable. but the fact they are missing is being an asshole is not being full of charisma. ie. floyd mayweather jr. a jerk, and could not put up ppv numbers like prince naseem did in his day, the prince was an asshole too, but he had the ability to sell his charismatic character was the selling point, people paid to see him lose. but it did get him paid.

i believe the money pushes the mentality, everyone love a grudge match, everyone love good vs evil....

DrVanNostrand 01-10-2007 07:52 PM

i guess the real question would be who can sell more and accumulate more fans? the nice guy, lovable type or the type of fighter that you just really love to hate?

kishiro 01-10-2007 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DrVanNostrand
i guess the real question would be who can sell more and accumulate more fans? the nice guy, lovable type or the type of fighter that you just really love to hate?

does not matter if nice or the bad guy.... charisma is charisma. if you got it you got it.
the reason i am used boxing is, it has been publiclly excepted longer than mma has.

jamlena 01-10-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Choke_Wire
I was just thinking about this. Does being a jerk give your some sort of edge over a more plesent fighter. I know it dosnt make you better than everyone else (GSP vs Matt would be an example). But could it give you a mental edge over some fighters? Is there anyway to truly tell

Ask Tito...LOL...just kidding Tito fans

CashKola 01-10-2007 08:32 PM

Being a jerk can help you with the fans (Tito). But being a nice guy can too, I love guys like Bas, Fedor, Couture, and Anderson Silva all because they are nice guys and don't talk trash. The first interview I saw with Anderson was when he said, "I'm gonna throw some punches, hes gonna throw some punches, and I'm gonna knock him out" then he smiled; and it was all after Leben was talking all kinds of trash. Right away I was just like I like this guy.

kishiro 01-10-2007 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CashKola
Being a jerk can help you with the fans (Tito). But being a nice guy can too, I love guys like Bas, Fedor, Couture, and Anderson Silva all because they are nice guys and don't talk trash. The first interview I saw with Anderson was when he said, "I'm gonna throw some punches, hes gonna throw some punches, and I'm gonna knock him out" then he smiled; and it was all after Leben was talking all kinds of trash. Right away I was just like I like this guy.

that is what i am saying leben does not have charisma, he has a big mouth trying to draw fans, he is just trying to get paid.
tito on the other hand has charisma

JawShattera 01-11-2007 01:50 AM

cash kola anderson has talked his share of trash when he wasnt in the ufc.......and leben is leben, he'll say that kind of stuff.


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