Originally Posted by khoveraki
Because Shogun, Vitor, Anderson Silva, Rampage Jackson, etc all came to the UFC and became chumps.
And as for petty insults, I really believe you ARE racist. Not saying it's an insult, just that you seem to bring up the Brown Pride every chance you get. You don't see me loving every blonde/blue eyed fighter and if one ever became champ (what color are lesnar's eyes?) I'd hope that my Brazilian Rocket Fists would knock him out.
Overeem beat Vovchanchyn, Vitor 2x, Kharitonov, and every HW he's faced besides a fluke KO in the Kharitonov rematch.
You don't have to hate a guy just because he can't beat Shogun Rua. If that were the case you'd have to hate pretty much everyone.
i dont hate overreem.
he doesnt really fight MMA. the sport i follow. he dabbles in it and is moderately successful.
thats a fact.
a win over Buentello to get a belt is way less legit then how Lesnar got his belt, yet you hate Lesnar??
Kind of weird...perhaps you are racist??
ridiculous?? well... the only mexican i ever talk about excessively is Cain Velasquez.
Not Gilbert Melendez.
Not Tito Ortiz
Not Eddie Alveraz
Not Frankie Edgar
Not Danny Castillo
Not Ricardo Lamas
Not Leonard Garcia
Not Miguel Torres
Not Damacio Page
Not Chad Mendes
nope... only Cain Velasquez...
but a guy like you... that seems intelligent.... cant figure out... "hey, maybe this guy just really likes Cain Velasquez and doesnt just cheer for fighters based on race"
nah... that was a tough puzzle to solve Khov. Im disappointed in you bringing this up, not once, twice now in this thread.
thought we past that.
fact is, Overeem has no really impressive MMA wins besides Belfort who has his own problems back then too. If you are gonna credit K1 wins then you midaswell Credit James Toneys resume coming in too.
Overeem has proven to be a mid level HW. Nothing more, nothing less.
Same level as say Roy Nelson, Rothwell,Kongo, Pat Barry.
EDIT. Let me add that Overeem and Mousasi should get the actively inactive award. Despite both having what, 30 fights?? both have only faced a handful of credible MMA opponents.
Its somewhat incredible to get that many fights, be considered that elite and yet never fight anybody?? i have to give respect to their managers and promotion team. getting top fighter cred without beating top fighters is something special.