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post #41 of 104 (permalink) Old 07-07-2006, 01:01 AM
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Actually Gman what you said is just dumb.Mike Tyson was a thug that jumped people on the streets he hit old ladys and stole from them.ANd even before he was with King he attempted to **** one of the trainers daughters.....the guy is and always was a scum bag.
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GMan, I've sparred with Chuck Liddell and he's not a one dimensional fighter. Maybe he's never taken down an opponent in the octagon, but can he clinch with Tyson and then drop him on the ground and destroy him? Yes. and so can any decent MMA heavyweight or lightheavyweight. Tyson would come into the fight one-dimensional and Chuck would put his back on the canvas and then submit him or just beat him black and blue.



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Actually Gman what you said is just dumb.Mike Tyson was a thug that jumped people on the streets he hit old ladys and stole from them.ANd even before he was with King he attempted to **** one of the trainers daughters.....the guy is and always was a scum bag.
So? I wasn't praising Tyson for his good deeds to humanity. Simply saying King robbed him of his will to win, then left him for broke when he lost. King is a much bigger scum bag than Tyson could ever be, and I don't think highly of Tyson's behavior.


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GMan, I've sparred with Chuck Liddell and he's not a one dimensional fighter. Maybe he's never taken down an opponent in the octagon, but can he clinch with Tyson and then drop him on the ground and destroy him? Yes. and so can any decent MMA heavyweight or lightheavyweight. Tyson would come into the fight one-dimensional and Chuck would put his back on the canvas and then submit him or just beat him black and blue.
Like I said, I think Chuck's best chance would be if he were able to submit Tyson, but I can picture Chuck moving in for the takedown, and getting caught with one of Mike's trademark uppercuts or a right hook to end the fight quickly, before it even got to the ground (where Chuck would absolutely have a major advantage). I've seen that kind scenerio happen before, as you probably have many times, to the advantage of strikers that were far more inferior than Tyson was. Tyson hitting someone full-on without boxing gloves is a scary thought. A lot of MMA fighters have great chins, but I don't see Chuck being able to take a blow from Tyson, and I'm pretty sure Mike would get at least one in before it hit the mat. Then again, Chuck could shoot really low, drop Tyson, and put him away with a heel hook before Mike even has a chance to punch him. Who knows how it could play out, but it's fun to imagine.

We scoff at Danny Abaddi's non-existant MMA skills in TUF 3, but the kid landed a clean shot on Ed at the start of their match that caught Ed asleep, and could have ended that fight before it started if Danny had a little more power behind him, or followed it up with a better combination. I'm just speculating possibility, and let's not forget... this whole thread is mere speculation.

PS: must have been cool as hell sparring with Chuck!

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Like I said, I think Chuck's best chance would be if he were able to submit Tyson, but I can picture Chuck moving in for the takedown, and getting caught with one of Mike's trademark uppercuts or a right hook to end the fight quickly, before it even got to the ground (where Chuck would absolutely have a major advantage). I've seen that kind scenerio happen before, as you probably have many times, to the advantage of strikers that were far more inferior than Tyson was. Tyson hitting someone full-on without boxing gloves is a scary thought. A lot of MMA fighters have great chins, but I don't see Chuck being able to take a blow from Tyson, and I'm pretty sure Mike would get at least one in before it hit the mat. Then again, Chuck could shoot really low, drop Tyson, and put him away with a heel hook before Mike even has a chance to punch him. Who knows how it could play out, but it's fun to imagine.

We scoff at Danny Abaddi's non-existant MMA skills in TUF 3, but the kid landed a clean shot on Ed at the start of their match that caught Ed asleep, and could have ended that fight before it started if Danny had a little more power behind him, or followed it up with a better combination. I'm just speculating possibility, and let's not forget... this whole thread is mere speculation.

PS: must have been cool as hell sparring with Chuck!
you mentioned how hard tyson hit in boxing gloves.. imagine him in those little 4 oz MMA gloves...

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Tyson, one hit would kill chuck
And this is of course its stand up and not taken to the ground... but i would hate to have iron mike on top throwing the fists at me

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I Was Having This Discussion In Anothere Thread So I Figured I Should Just Start A New One..chuck Would Want To Strike With Iron Mike Which Would Be A Bad Decision Because Tyson Would Be Too Quick And His Punches To Powerful, I Think Tyson Would Eventually Catch Chuck Wit A Combo And Knock Him Out...1st Round Ko
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So? I wasn't praising Tyson for his good deeds to humanity. Simply saying King robbed him of his will to win, then left him for broke when he lost. King is a much bigger scum bag than Tyson could ever be, and I don't think highly of Tyson's behavior.
you said he was a humble young man....o plz stop it...He was a thug.And nothing more

As for AdminMMA it would obviously be taken to the ground Kid Punk has no take down defense...heck he could train it for an entire year guys such an idiot he would probably pull guard.Chuck was a college wrestler there is a much bigger difference trust me.
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Your not serious right? That was a metaphor right cause neither is chuck or tyson. The white guy isn't white it's minowa and the black guy is rampage.

I was obviously joking dude, ii know who the guys in my av are
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you said he was a humble young man....o plz stop it...He was a thug.And nothing more

As for AdminMMA it would obviously be taken to the ground Kid Punk has no take down defense...heck he could train it for an entire year guys such an idiot he would probably pull guard.Chuck was a college wrestler there is a much bigger difference trust me.
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I never said Tyson was a "humble young man", as you have stated. I said, "When Cus died, Mike was like a lost little boy". There's a big BIG difference there. If you knew anything about Tyson's history, you'd know what I mean by that.

Also, I wouldn't be so sure that Tyson would be an easy take-down for Chuck (or anyone else). Tyson definitely had some street fighting knowledge, so I'm mildly sure he knew some basic grappling avoidance. Would it be enough? No clue, but Mike's legs are like tree trunks, so unless Liddell was able to do what Genki Sudo did to Eric Esch, he'd have some serious problems to overcome.

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