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07-08-2006, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman
You must be talking about Cus D’Amato, but Tyson didn't hit his prime until after Cus died. Cus was a father figure to him and a great influence, but truly his best trainer must have been Kevin Rooney, who was also a student of Cus, and used many of his mentor's training techniques to further school Tyson. Like we discussed in some of the posts above, almost immediately after Tyson fired Rooney, he lost all but a shadow of his former greatness.
Well, time to go get ready for the big UFC event...  |
Yeah, after Rooney and D'Amato he became crap. If you see Tyson losing to guys like Bob Sapp and Kevin McHale you know he is nothing without his former trainers. The UFC event is in 40 minutes, tick tock tick tock  . |
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07-09-2006, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gman
Yep, I think you're right. In addition, I think it would have given Mike the mental tools he desperately needed back in his early days to become a more stable person in life.
Hell, I wish I started training MMA long ago. I did some wrestling for several years in high school, then did some amateur boxing, and got my BB in TKD, but only recently started learning other things like Ju-Jitsu. Hindsight is 20/20.  |
Thing is though any form of training weather it be a martial art or learning an instrument is good for kids growing up. It teaches them discpline and paitience.. Discpline is key and is approached at differently and in different way in martial arts then in other forms of study. but it is there in all if it is somethiong that takes lots of practice to become great at. |
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07-09-2006, 01:36 PM
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Chuck Liddell would take him down and Choke him out Mike Tyson doesn't deserv to even be spoken about on an MMA forum.
Do you honestly think this retard would learn all these different things??Not to say a COllege wrestler is so much sharper then a guy who trained it for 2 years it's insane to compare you guys need to wake up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4l0Z...h=Mike%20Tyson
o and lmao he's a muslim |
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07-09-2006, 04:30 PM
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No one mentioned knees. When Tyson does his infamous duck under "Bam", knee to the head. I think if Liddell studied enough video footage, his tools would definitely be enough to defeat Tyson. The only way I could see Tyson successful is if the fight was put together with no time for Liddell to study his opponent. Kicks, knees, elbows & submissions make for better tools.
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07-09-2006, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Eminem
Chuck Liddell would take him down and Choke him out Mike Tyson doesn't deserv to even be spoken about on an MMA forum.
Do you honestly think this retard would learn all these different things??Not to say a COllege wrestler is so much sharper then a guy who trained it for 2 years it's insane to compare you guys need to wake up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4l0Z...h=Mike%20Tyson
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actually tyson was not as dumb as his mistakes make him.. He has a severe anger and attitude problem which was controled when he was young.. At a young age he was the most dominant force in the boxing ring.. if that energy was applied to MMA at that time.. Tyson would have been just as powerful just more deadly. And all he would need is one punch not even a direct one.. to knock out most MMA fighters if he was wearing the 4 oz gloves... Your a bit too young to remember tyson when he was first up and coming but if you were older you would understand.. but true as it stands right now.. most MMA fighters now.. would out class him with the wider range of skills.. though Tyson even today still has the power to one punch nearly anyone ... |
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07-11-2006, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Eminem
This isn't even a fight Chuck would destroy that scum bag,He isn't a fighter he's a boxer.
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You know nothing, Tyson at 22 years old, are you kidding me?
Obviously you have never seen him in his prime, you could put Chuck and Wanderlei in there with baseball bats and they would both get hurt.
Tyson was huge and fast and powerfull you are a moron |
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07-11-2006, 11:45 AM
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interesting match but if chuck would've gotten passed tyson's punches.. he would surely knock him out. tyson's a strong puncher, one of the strongest if not but chuck was a K-1 fighter. he knows how to use his legs/feet.
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07-11-2006, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cbingham
You know nothing, Tyson at 22 years old, are you kidding me?
Obviously you have never seen him in his prime, you could put Chuck and Wanderlei in there with baseball bats and they would both get hurt.
Tyson was huge and fast and powerfull you are a moron
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in eminems defense.. he was not even born when tyson was 22.. |
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07-11-2006, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Eminem
I hope your talking about the 22 year old Mike if your not then never watch UFC again...No offense just saying.
As for Kid Punk being that good at MMA?? lmao ok there is a big difference between a college wrestler and a moron like Tyson.
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of course i was talkin about 22 year old mike. this thread is about 22 year old tyson vs. chuck
1986-1988 tyson was insane. teach him how to ground pound and etc, he will be unstoppable. |
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07-12-2006, 01:37 AM
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If I can speculate on this "what if" match for a second:
If there was a match between Chuck Liddell of now, and a 22 year old Mike Tyson, if the match did not hit the ground quickly, the odds of Tyson walking away increases by quite a bit. Since we're only saying "22 year old Mike Tyson" and not "22 year old Mike Tyson with MMA training," once the fight hits the ground he has almost no chance of catching Liddell. His only chance is to catch Liddell when the distance is closing.
However, if Liddell did entertain the idea of standing with Mike longer than 30 seconds, he wouldn't even have a chance to realize it was a mistake. He'd be put to sleep way before that.
But the chances are that a clinch will happen, and it will end up on the ground. Although a 22 year old Mike Tyson is a sight to behold, Chuck isn't just going to stand in front of him and let him throw punches. If we want to know what happens when a Pro Boxer steps into the octagon, we only need to look to UFC 4, when Melton Bowen (Pro HW Boxer with a record of 35W-9L-0D/28 KOs) faced Steve Jennum, a part-time cop who came in with a Ninjitsu pedegree. The fight ended when the two clinched, Jennum took Bowen to the ground and armbarred him. That was a certifiable Pro HW Boxer in the UFC cage.
I'm not saying 22 year old Mike Tyson is less skilled than Melton Bowen...
But I can't put Steve Jennum in the same skill category as Chuck Liddell.
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Last edited by Onganju : 07-12-2006 at 02:12 AM.
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Chuck Vs.22 Yr Old Mike Tyson??
