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Old 07-12-2006, 03:19 AM   #81 (permalink)
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I Was Having This Discussion In Anothere Thread So I Figured I Should Just Start A New One..chuck Would Want To Strike With Iron Mike Which Would Be A Bad Decision Because Tyson Would Be Too Quick And His Punches To Powerful, I Think Tyson Would Eventually Catch Chuck Wit A Combo And Knock Him Out...1st Round Ko
MY God, That's a No Contest.., Mike would knock him out inside of 30sec.!!
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Old 07-12-2006, 04:03 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Tyson Always Has The Puncher's Chance

Tyson is arguably the heaviest puncher, not only in boxing - but in any sport, MMA included. Even today, without training for Chuck Liddell or any fighter, Mike Tyson would knock out anyone if he landed just a decent punch.

Heavy hitters retain their punching power. It comes naturally. George Foreman's success in his comeback is a testament to this. He was losing virtually every round to Michael Moorer before landing one right hand that brought him a knockout and the heavyweight championship.

At 22, Tyson was at his peak and he truly believed that he was the baddest man on the planet. He probably was right.

I've never seen Chuck go for a takedown even though it is rumored that he is an excellent wrestler. I've never seen evidence of his wrestling ability outside of him avoiding takedowns against MMA fighters.

The only quality wrestler I've seen Chuck up against, Randy Couture, took Chuck down at will.

Tyson's no wrestler, but he is a boxer and a street fighter. He'd have the skill to do damage on his feet, and land blows that would make Chuck hesitant to bore in.

This would make it an exchange of punches. Both men would be comfortable on their feet, but we're talking about a man that had the potential to be the greatest heavyweight champion of all time in his prime against an MMA champion. Now, don't get me wrong, Chuck Liddell is a bad ass. I wouldn't want to fight him. But, this discussion doesn't have him in the Octagon with Joe Schmo. Tyson is not the average boxer.

Tyson in his prime KO's virtually any MMA fighter 99 out of 100 times because...

Even great wrestlers that can execute a deep shot to take down Tyson would take one or two punches to the kidneys, even on the arms. These punches from Tyson would be with him wearing 4oz gloves. Anywhere he lands a punch will hurt.

No one's standing up to that.



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Old 07-12-2006, 06:28 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Tyson is arguably the heaviest puncher, not only in boxing - but in any sport, MMA included. Even today, without training for Chuck Liddell or any fighter, Mike Tyson would knock out anyone if he landed just a decent punch.

Heavy hitters retain their punching power. It comes naturally. George Foreman's success in his comeback is a testament to this. He was losing virtually every round to Michael Moorer before landing one right hand that brought him a knockout and the heavyweight championship.

At 22, Tyson was at his peak and he truly believed that he was the baddest man on the planet. He probably was right.

I've never seen Chuck go for a takedown even though it is rumored that he is an excellent wrestler. I've never seen evidence of his wrestling ability outside of him avoiding takedowns against MMA fighters.

The only quality wrestler I've seen Chuck up against, Randy Couture, took Chuck down at will.

Tyson's no wrestler, but he is a boxer and a street fighter. He'd have the skill to do damage on his feet, and land blows that would make Chuck hesitant to bore in.

This would make it an exchange of punches. Both men would be comfortable on their feet, but we're talking about a man that had the potential to be the greatest heavyweight champion of all time in his prime against an MMA champion. Now, don't get me wrong, Chuck Liddell is a bad ass. I wouldn't want to fight him. But, this discussion doesn't have him in the Octagon with Joe Schmo. Tyson is not the average boxer.

Tyson in his prime KO's virtually any MMA fighter 99 out of 100 times because...

Even great wrestlers that can execute a deep shot to take down Tyson would take one or two punches to the kidneys, even on the arms. These punches from Tyson would be with him wearing 4oz gloves. Anywhere he lands a punch will hurt.

No one's standing up to that.



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I couldn't agree with you more.. You also bought out one point that I over looked, Tyson would be wearing 4oz gloves..! Those punches wouldn't hurt - I think the reciever wouldn't even feel them - at least not until he is revived in the strecher or ambulence ( if he wakes up at all..!!) With 4oz. gloves Tyson punches will land with bone crushing fury..! At 22 Tyson was like an untamed (but well schooled) beast And against an MMA fighter with 4oz. gloves he's saddistic attack wouldn't be exercuted with his usual "Bad Intentions" it would be exercuted with "Muderous Intentions..!" Or should I say "Muderous Results".! Remember His devatating -perfectly exercuted- Right hook to the body, Right uppercut to the head combination.? That change-up stopped "EVERY" opponet he used it on (he Seldom use it twice in a fight (Can't remember when he had to..)... To bad he abandon it in his latter years, -but that another story.. Imagine, with his speed (at the time), his power, temperment and those gloves. If he cought an opponet shooting in for a take down with that combo -the results could be down right fatal... Shot to the temple = Start reciting eulogy! (For those who think Tyson would Have been an easy take down. Take a realistic look at his speed compact fighting style and low center of gravity...! Oh, and do I have to mention that bone crushing power thing again..!
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Old 07-12-2006, 07:37 PM   #84 (permalink)
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This is why i think im leaving this site,A bunch of 12 year old kids talking about Mike Tyson like he's a god.
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Old 07-12-2006, 08:28 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Lol, I'm dissapointed by some of the MMA fans here.
Chuck Liddell is the most feared striker in the UFC, probably in the entire world besides Wanderlei Silva. Mike Tyson is strong and quick but Chuck Liddell is a Mixed Martial Artist and MMA fans just have to put their faith in that fact.
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Old 07-12-2006, 09:07 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Lol, I'm dissapointed by some of the MMA fans here.
Chuck Liddell is the most feared striker in the UFC, probably in the entire world besides Wanderlei Silva. Mike Tyson is strong and quick but Chuck Liddell is a Mixed Martial Artist and MMA fans just have to put their faith in that fact.
The world? What about ernestto host, crocop, remy bonjansky, maurice smith. Chuck's good but i don't know about that good.
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:05 PM   #87 (permalink)
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MoldyThe world? What about ernestto host, crocop, remy bonjansky, maurice smith. Chuck's good but i don't know about that good.
No Venom ,most of the people here dont know anything about MMA.
They just watch it.I think and say what would i do in that position how did he get out of that.And i understand the power of grappling.I mean like that moron Jdun that got banned(Actually i think he's one of those new guys on another account) said "MIKE TYSON IS A GOD,HE WILL BEAT GOD HIM SELF" o plz....................sounds like a 12 year old And shouldn't be on any MMA site.

Maurice smith is a bum striker who would get waxed if he went to the UFC Hoost??The guy that lost to Sapp like 2 times in his own striking game.
There is no point to compare Liddells striking when he has grappling skills 20 thousand times higher than Tysons will ever reach.

O and just for the god i hpe you guys are just comparing 22 yr old TYson to Liddell(Even though thats insane as well)Andd not other boxers or the new dum Tyson.
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:08 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Understand MMA Fully First...

I certainly did not say that Mike Tyson is, was, or ever could be a great MMA fighter. What I am saying is that he is a man who has certain abilities that a great fighter would desire. One of these abilities is devastating knockout power.

That trait alone is enough to stop anyone because it can end a fight in an instant.

Even if Tyson were to KO Chuck Liddell, or any MMA fighter, it wouldn't make Tyson a better all around fighter. The victory would only make Tyson victorious.

It's obvious that The Iceman and MMA fighters are all around more skilled fighters than boxers. MMA fighters are, for the most part, skilled in all areas of fighting. Such is not the case with boxers.

What separates Tyson from most boxers, is his uncanny power. It's not natural.

A comparison would be pitting an eight foot tall man who weighed 575 pounds of solid muscle against Royce Gracie in his prime. Chances are Gracie would certainly be destroyed. The victory would not make the giant of a man an all around better fighter though. Would it?

Same with Tyson and Liddell or any MMA fighter.

Tyson (at 22 in his prime especially) would always have that puncher's chance even against fighters much more skilled than him.


Even if you are a die hard MMA fan, as I am; you can not be blind in your belief or devotion to thinking that an MMA fighter will defeat any practitioner of a fighting style or discipline.

Bruce Lee was very much a practitioner of Jeet Kwon Do (I may have spelled it wrong). He didn't study ground fighting much. I'd still put good money on him if he were to face many of today's MMA competitors in his prime.

Would you?

Still, even if Bruce Lee defeated Chuck Liddell or Tito Ortiz or any well rounded MMA fighter; it wouldn't make Bruce Lee an all around better fighter. Judging all areas of fighting, like Tyson, Bruce would come up on the short end of the stick. But, because he's so dominant in the area he targeted, that alone would help him defeat most of his opponents.

People like Tyson and Bruce Lee are rare exceptions. Even a great boxer like Muhammad Ali would lose to most MMA fighters.

Most black belts would get hammered by average MMA fighters.

There are few exceptions like Tyson and Bruce Lee. At the moment I can't think of any others.




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Old 07-12-2006, 11:41 PM   #89 (permalink)
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If we're talking about an MMA fight, Chuck would just ground and pound Mike until he died, because Tyson would never tap.

If you're talking boxing, Iron Mike would destroy Chuck. His hands are way faster and he can take way more punishment than Chuck has ever shown that he can in his carreer.

Mike Tyson is and was a heartless (albeit strong and tough) scumbag. He would quickly tap if was caught in a rear naked choke hold or any other painful submission. If Chuck was foolish enough to try to box with him he would run the risk of being a Tyson statistic.
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Mike Tyson is and was a heartless (albeit strong and tough) scumbag. He would quickly tap if was caught in a rear naked choke hold or any other painful submission. If Chuck was foolish enough to try to box with him he would run the risk of being a Tyson statistic.
HAHA you sound like my dad.
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