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**deadmanshand** · 07-14-2010, 11:32 PM

Whatever. You are being being an asshat. No one else found my arguments hard to follow. Only you find them incoherent. I'm not going to argue with you. I'm done here. I have other projects to work on.

kantowrestler · 07-14-2010, 11:53 PM

I personally think there will always be guys who transition from another sport into MMA. Sure there will be those guys who train solely in MMA but the tradition of going from a certain sport to clash with someone from another discipline will not change. Sure the good old days when Royce Gracie dominated the sport are gone, but the discipline versus discipline theme will never truely die!

BrutalKO · 07-14-2010, 11:56 PM

..The sport just keeps evolving. It will always be MMA. Look at each division. Shogun is not a wrestler but he's the LHW champion. Anderson Silva isn't a wrestler and he's been a dominant MW champion. GSP has blended all the aspects of MMA. Wrestling has been his biggest asset and he's been a dominant WW champion. B.J. isn't a wrestler, he's been the LW Champ for a long while. I seriously doubt the sport will become a bunch of gold's gym WWE brutes that just wrestle their way to a title. One dimentional doesn't mix with the word "Mixed"...

**IronMan** · 07-15-2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by deadmanshand

Whatever. You are being being an asshat. No one else found my arguments hard to follow. Only you find them incoherent. I'm not going to argue with you. I'm done here. I have other projects to work on.

Another brilliant argument.

"He's being mean to me, so I'm leaving." You are a mastermind.

It's not the argument was hard to follow, it's that it makes no sense to argue that there's "systemization" occurring without appropriate requalifying systemization, which you haven't. Define what you mean when you say that MMA is becoming a style, and where you see that occurring.

Don't just say "I see this thing happening, but I'm not going to tell you what I mean by it and I'm not going to tell you where I see it. And I'm not going to deal with the terms, and with the history. I just see it."

kantowrestler · 07-15-2010, 12:14 AM

Yeah I definately agree with you. GSP is a true mixed martial artist but he had a base in karate before anything else. Everyone is great at something and are proficient at the other stuff to win a title. It's definately MMA and it's here to stay!

**deadmanshand** · 07-15-2010, 12:22 AM

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Another brilliant argument.

"He's being mean to me, so I'm leaving." You are a mastermind.

It's not the argument was hard to follow, it's that it makes no sense to argue that there's "systemization" occurring without appropriate requalifying systemization, which you haven't. Define what you mean when you say that MMA is becoming a style, and where you see that occurring.

Don't just say "I see this thing happening, but I'm not going to tell you what I mean by it and I'm not going to tell you where I see it. And I'm not going to deal with the terms, and with the history. I just see it."

I'm not leaving because you are being mean to me. I'm leaving because I other things I need to work on. DO you have a job? I do and it precludes me spending a lot of time arguing with you about something that doesn't matter. Take your disdain somewhere else.

kantowrestler · 07-15-2010, 12:29 AM

What do you do for a living?

**IronMan** · 07-15-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by deadmanshand

I'm not leaving because you are being mean to me. I'm leaving because I other things I need to work on. DO you have a job? I do and it precludes me spending a lot of time arguing with you about something that doesn't matter. Take your disdain somewhere else.

I have two (three if you count being a full time student), and they don't preclude me from holding intelligent discussions on this board. I'd like to have one, but the substance of your post since your initial response in which you got (a) defense about your background, (b) relativistic, (c) defense of a ridiculous cultural norm and (d) restated your position in a soundbite form, with no substantive defense.

You managed to hit four of my pet peeves in one post, and while that hardly makes you the worst poster on the board (or even in this thread) you can't really expect me to warm up to a post which manages to get defense and offer nothing to deal with the substantive issue I had with the coherence of your positions.

**swpthleg** · 07-15-2010, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kantowrestler

What do you do for a living?

That's another thread, called, oddly, "What do you do for a living?"

kantowrestler · 07-15-2010, 12:46 AM

Ok, I'll break down the diversity of styles in the heavyweight top 10. Brock, Carwin, Cain, and Mir all have wrestling bases; Werdum and Big Nog have BBJ bases, Fedor has a sambo base, Overeem is a kickboxer, and JDS and Rogers are unspecified strikers!

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