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post #11 of 57 (permalink) Old 08-07-2010, 01:59 PM
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It is jingoism programing by the mass media and government. It exists in most countries the citizenry of this one is just programmed to express it differently. I actually find it funny that something beaten into peoples brains from the time they are born for the purposes of limiting political questioning spills out during sporting events.

Nationality isn't ethnicity so generally it isn't racism they do it to british fighters as well. I have seen people do it when there isn't a USA born fighter in the ring though and there can be a argument made for that being racist. Since it is usually the fans associating the white European/South African as american and the hispanic/south american as foreign. That plays into the whole white americans not seeing minorities as real americans thing.
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I could care less where a fighter is from. My friend's and I only cheer for who we like.
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It happens everywhere.. The Canadian fighters got bigger cheers and their names chanted every time in Montreal and Vancouver. Im sure it was the same in England.

What about when Nate Quarry fought Kalib Starnes in Canada? 20,000 people were cheering for the Canadian Kalib, while booing Nate.

Then Kalib didn't fight and Nate was pushing all the action (kind of like Maia against Silva in the 5th round). Nate was cheered like a hero in the later rounds. Nate made that horrible fight somewhat interesting and changed a whole crowds reaction. Then the second time he fought in Canada he was cheered like he was Canadian.

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I could care less where a fighter is from. My friend's and I only cheer for who we like.
Thats the right mentality!

Who cares where you happen to be born? Thats something you can not control.

When I read topics like that, I always think about Genki

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What about when Nate Quarry fought Kalib Starnes in Canada? 20,000 people were cherring for the Canadian Kalib, while booing Nate.

Then Kalib didn't fight and Nate was pushing all the action (kind of like Maia against Silva in the 5th round). Nate was cheered like a hero in the later rounds. Nate made that horrible fight somewhat interesting and changed a whole crowds reaction. Then the second time he fought in Canada he was cheered like he was Canadian.
And just when you thought he couldn't get more awesome, he quotes Rocky's post fight comment about everyone can change from Rocky IV.
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And just when you thought he couldn't get more awesome, he quotes Rocky's post fight comment about everyone can change from Rocky IV.
I Forgot about that!
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I don't get national pride either. One shouldn't be proud of something that happened through accident. Nobody can change the place they were born in. Pride should be only for things you accomplish. I guess as long as it's just an innocent chant it doesn't matter much... just sayin'...




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The fact is that when people go out and fight in MMA that person is representing everythign they are, and that includes your country. Back when PRIDE was the major promotion it was a big deal to go out and represent your country. Since the UFC has become the major promotion, everyone takes it for granted that we live in the USA and that 90%+ of the UFC events will be in America. We forget back at the time when fighters went to Japan to represent everything they were. That was a time when fighters of all different nationalities went over to represent themselves. We forget that the majority of fighters in the UFC are American and we take it for granted that the top promotion in the world right now is American. It's different when we see foreign fighters in the ring cause it's not the norm. I can understand why fighters take PRIDE in representing their country!

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What about when Nate Quarry fought Kalib Starnes in Canada? 20,000 people were cheering for the Canadian Kalib, while booing Nate.

Then Kalib didn't fight and Nate was pushing all the action (kind of like Maia against Silva in the 5th round). Nate was cheered like a hero in the later rounds. Nate made that horrible fight somewhat interesting and changed a whole crowds reaction. Then the second time he fought in Canada he was cheered like he was Canadian.
They cheered Kalib on his way to the cage and didn't hate him till he ran till he couldn't run anymore.

Every county cheer there own. Yeah there is the odd exception but in general its a fairly safe bet.




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Yeah one example is Michael Bisping's bull**** win against Matt Hammill. He won and everyone was cheering him cause he was in the UK!

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