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Old 08-18-2010, 12:49 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Manhoef has knocked out bums and was knocked out by Robbie Lawler. Top 3, no way.

And Wanderlei in his prime..maybe, now..no.
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:52 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Are we talking technical striker or effective striker? Because there is a difference.....
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So the guy has been outstruck in two of his last five fights, and he's still the best striker in the UFC? Seriously?
Yes seriously, he won the Wanderlei fight IMO, but in terms of another popular argument... many have called Anderson the P4P best fighter....seriously? He got manhandled like a child at 117, but I won't bring that argument up either.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:15 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Yes seriously, he won the Wanderlei fight IMO, but in terms of another popular argument... many have called Anderson the P4P best fighter....seriously? He got manhandled like a child at 117, but I won't bring that argument up either.
He got outstruck by Wanderlei, statistically. Not to mention Wanderlei scored the only knockdown of the fight. Oh, and lets not forget that Henderson knocked the smug out of Bisping, and nobody considers Henderson in this argument at all. And they shouldn't, because (like Bisping) he doesn't dominate everyone he fights standing up.

With Wanderlei far removed from his prime, Bisping went to a split decision after extended periods of striking with a guy who had been knocked out in three of his last ten performances.

If you seriously think that Bisping is has the best "striking/footwork" in the UFC, you should watch his fights. If people were afraid to stand with Bisping, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but it was Bisping, not Wanderlei, who had ten takedown attempts in that fight.

Nobody in that division is intimidated by Bisping's standup. Well, except Demian Maia. But, let's face it, after the fight with Marquardt, that guy is probably afraid of taking a swing at a fly.

Oh, and thanks for putting me in a position to argue that Anderson is the best P4P fighter in the world, something I never said. Classic.
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As I said at the end of my first post....it's only an opinion. But of course I am totally entited aren't I?
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As I said at the end of my first post....it's only an opinion. But of course I am totally entited aren't I?
Of course you are, Liza.

And I'm entitled to point out that you're position makes no sense, and your argument was... well... not much of an argument.
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:22 PM   #27 (permalink)
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What form of argument do you need? Now I'm assuming you have eyes, isn't that enough?

Shogun has sloppy punches, brawls far too much, and has pretty good muay thai. He's not even in the top 5 in the UFC.
These two I disagree with. "Brawling" is to my perception, throwing sloppy hooks while squared up. What he does to me is better defined as "constantly moving forward" he's the definition of a pressure fighter.

And "sloppy punches" is a big stretch. I think maybe he throws occassionally from the hips as he's moving forward if he switches stances as he moves. But that's almost impossible to not do when step fghting the way he did in Machida 1.

And yeah, he's definitely not top 5 currently with his lackluster UFC record, though the two Machida fights were great showings. I think if he has 2 or 3 more wins ala Machida vs Shogun 2, calling him a top fiver is very legitimate.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:50 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Ok, how can he not be top 5 and still be the champion?
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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...Nice voting fellow members. I voted yes as well. Anderson has the highest connect percentage in UFC history. I think in time his fellow training partner and good friend Lyoto Machida will be up there as well. Another notable is Cro-Cop. His striking in Pride was amazing and his connect percentage was in the 80's as well...
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:36 PM   #30 (permalink)
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There have been way better strikers in mma, he would have to use defence for me to consider him the best striker ever in mma. HOWEVER, those better strikers sucked comparatively at everything else, and Anderson gets to make lesser athletes, brawlers and BJJ guys look foolish.

That's why I want to see him vs Vitor badly. Footwork will get you a long way, but eventually it's going to get you KO'd leaving your hands down like he does. Maybe Vitor gets KO'd, but I'll have to see it to believe it.
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