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Promotion Loyality and Nationalism in MMA

Call this nit-picking if you will, but imo, im a little irratated at the "I wanna this guy in the UFC" attitude.
I for one, have no loyalty to UFC, DREAM, Strikeforce or Bellator. I see it as " I wanna see Lombard fight Silva" instead of " I wanna see Lombard in the UFC".
One of the main things I have noticed is how no one ever says " I wanna see Lesnar in SF" or " I wanna see BJ in DREAM" or " I wanna see Silva in Bellator". Why is that?
"UFC is the biggest MMA promotion in the wolrd". Fact. And since that is a "fact" then what does Lesnar, Shogun, Silva, GSP and Edgar have to lose if they fight in other Promotions.
If the win, they proved their point.
If they lose, then it shows that there are fighters better than them outside the UFC.
These guys are good fighters dont get me wrong, but if Dana White holds his fighters in such high regard, why not let his fighter fight in the Grand Prix in Japan, the Bellator tourneys or the M-1 tourneys. I have a feeling when he did this with Chuck Liddell and Chuck didnt do so well in PRIDE that that kind of shook Dana White's confidence a bit.

Now onto the Nationalism part.
If you follow MMA (both in and outside the US) you will see a bit of pattern with the Promos.
US fighters are dominant in the US
Japanesse fighters are dominant in Japan
Brazillian fighters are dominant in Brazil
Russian fighters are dominant in Russia
and so on and so forth.

And to state this fact, Im gonna provide legitimate information. Lets take 5 major promos each from the from the 2 leading MMA countries. USA and Japan
USA: UFC, WEC, Strikeforce, Bellator and King of the Cage
Japan: DREAM, Shooto, Sengoku, Pancrease and DEEP

Lets now take a look at their reigning and former champions by nationality.
UFC: Americans 62 Brazilians 10 Japanesse 2
WEC: Americans 29 Brazilians 3
Strikeforce: 9 Americans Brazilians 2
Bellator: Americans 3
King of the Cage: Americans 9 Japanesse 1

DREAM: Japanesse 2 Brazilians 1
Shooto: Japanesse 33 Brazilians 4 Americans 3
Sengoku: Japanese 3 Brazilians 2
Pancrease: Japanesse 30 Americans 8 Brazilians 2
DEEP: Japanesse 9

See the difference?

And to make it a little more interesting, Im now gonna add the nationalities of the non Americans, Japanesse and Brazilians as a whole.
UFC: 12
WEC: 1
Strikeforce: 1
Bellator: 2
King of the Cage: 0

Shooto: 3
Sengoku: 0
Pancrease: 4

Im still on the fence of counting TUF winners, but those are the numbers. But the point of bringing up thses numbers was to point out that most MMA fighters are more dominant in their home country.
So that "Japan MMA is dead BS" can be put to rest because if your basing it off of a Japanesse fighter being successfull inthe USA, then in Japan, USA MMA is dead because there damn sure isnt any Americans fighters doing anything that impressive over there.

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