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post #1 of 47 (permalink) Old 08-22-2010, 07:18 PM Thread Starter
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Should Noons have been disqualified? A punch clearly after the bell [it rang, Jurgel stopped, and Noons quite knowingly changed stance and threw] and a knee to the head illegally, admittedly Jurgel was badly hurt at this stage. Still, even the commentators seem to be suggesting that Noons had won illegally. Thoughts? Is it just another inadequate call from Strikeforce?

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post #2 of 47 (permalink) Old 08-22-2010, 07:22 PM
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No he shouldn't. Was to close after the bell. And the knee never landed.
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the end of the first, i saw no blame, KJ was comming out of his crouch and winding up just as the bell sounded, and was such a quick powerful shot. as for Gurgel looking like he stopped at the bell, i think he was anticipating it, wasnt expecting a left like that and started to put his guard down just before the bell..... and i think that should fall under the "protect yourself at all times".... NEVER anticipate a bell or a ref stopping something.

as for the knee.... yeah that was kinda bad... totaly illegal.... but i think what they were saying was that the ref was stepping in to stop it before the knee.... how that changes thing? hell if i know... but thats what i got from it. i coulda sen it going either way as a win for KJ or a DQ against hm and wouldnt have cried foul either way.


i really liked KJ, but i may be leaning towards D-Bag after this fight from the knee.... we'll see.. if he never does something like that again then it looks to be a fluke, happpens again then D-Bag for sure.


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I think it should have been a NC IMO.




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that reffing was terrible, dont know if this was posted or not,but glad to see gurgel not have any bad blood with kj over it though
http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/08/2...ns-blames-ref/

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I don't know if Noon's should have been DQ'd but I think the rules need to be changed where if a guy throws himself at your ankle you should be able to kick or shake him off.

I think Lashley's life might be at risk for that second fight death thing because Griggs was nailing the back of/side of his head.
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post #7 of 47 (permalink) Old 08-23-2010, 02:36 AM
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Should Noons have been disqualified? A punch clearly after the bell [it rang, Jurgel stopped, and Noons quite knowingly changed stance and threw] and a knee to the head illegally, admittedly Jurgel was badly hurt at this stage. Still, even the commentators seem to be suggesting that Noons had won illegally. Thoughts? Is it just another inadequate call from Strikeforce?
Not only did the commentators suggest it,but they stated it.Noons clearly won the fight,but that knee shouldv'e cost him him the victory(NC).
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post #8 of 47 (permalink) Old 08-23-2010, 02:57 AM
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I thought the punch that dropped gurgel in the first was before the bell and fair.

However, regarding the end of the fight. Any way you look at it, that was ridiculous and pathetic. The ref was indeed stopping the fight but didn't step in quick enough. And noons didn't have the wherewithal to know the rules, especially against an opponent that out of it. No contest would be fair for gurgel.
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NC imo



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Ariel Helwani also seems to think a NC would have been the fairest outcome too, I agree, I think both incidents were dodgy and certainly affected the outcome of the fight.

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