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post #221 of 266 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 06:52 AM
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IMO Noons and Diaz are both overrated.

Noons' boxing is good but he does not utilise it as well as he should. He seems to think the fact that his boxing is technically superior to his opponenets that he can just stand and bang with anyone. He needs to be more Frankie Edgar like IMO and move in and out and pick his shots more - otherwise he just turns fights into brawls and negates his boxing advantage.

I have warmed to Nick slightly over the past year but still think he relies on his chin FAR too much. His defensive stand up is poor and it is only a matter of time before someone hits him on the button and puts him out (like jeremy jackson did).

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I have warmed to Nick slightly over the past year but still think he relies on his chin FAR too much.
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MMA judging is so ******* terrible. They can't tell when strikes land or understand what is going on in grappling. If the average level of striking defense wasn't so poor in MMA they would never get a decision right.

I am saying right now if you thought Diaz won the second, fourth, or fifth you don't know shit about striking. The end, that is a fact. I don't want anyone telling me that Diaz won this fight watching from a crappy stream either when I am watching it in HD and can see 70% of the strikes Nick was throwing in a couple rounds completely miss. Noons landed more strikes and more power shots in 3 rounds by a lot there isn't a debate.
Get off your high horse mate, I watched it live on Superchannel HD and scored Diaz rd 1, 3 and 4 no problems.

And no Noons didn't land more strikes:

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/10/...ic-report.html
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Why do people hold arm in guillotines so long? Have you ever seen anybody spend that much time in and then tap? We see that often you either get or you don't why do people burn themselves out so often?
CB Dolloway did it perfectly at 119.

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Get off your high horse mate, I watched it live on Superchannel HD and scored Diaz rd 1, 3 and 4 no problems.

And no Noons didn't land more strikes:

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/10/...ic-report.html
Except those stats are clearly wrong by a lot. 61 body strikes my ass he was landing 5-10 every time Diaz clinched him. Noons landed over 100 jabs in that fight easy and that shit says he landed 56 fight metric is a joke. In the KZ/Garcia fight they gave KZ less strikes for an entire round than he landed in one combination in that round.
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CB Dolloway did it perfectly at 119.
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Except those stats are clearly wrong by a lot. 61 body strikes my ass he was landing 5-10 every time Diaz clinched him. Noons landed over 100 jabs in that fight easy and that shit says he landed 56 fight metric is a joke. In the KZ/Garcia fight they gave KZ less strikes for an entire round than he landed in one combination in that round.

Off topic but yeah the KZ/Garcia fight was BS, even through my sheer excitement I could see that KZ shoulda taken that fight and landed way more than Garcia.

And even though I disagree with you about the stats being wrong (along with most good MMA media sites) its not all about how many punches each guy lands its about significant blows which Diaz definitely landed more of....when I saw the Compustrike numbers I felt like they were WAY off.

I agree the 2nd was all Noons, but the 4th was Diaz and the 5th you could give to Noons I suppose even though I have seen the last rd scored Diaz, Noons and 10-10.

End of the day this was not one of those terribly scored fights, it was a very close fight which most ppl feel (and ppl I respect for there knowledge) Diaz won, if anything Thomson/JZ was scored worse.
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, if anything Thomson/JZ was scored worse.

I agree. I think JZ Cavalcante was robbed.


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I love how you can show people proof that Daiz took the fight and all they have to come back with is "oh the numbers are wrong" lol.


http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/10/...ic-report.html

Its simple even though you dont like him he won convincingly again reaffirming his place as a top ten fighter.

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I love how you can show people proof that Daiz took the fight and all they have to come back with is "oh the numbers are wrong" lol.


http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/10/...ic-report.html

Its simple even though you dont like him he won convincingly again reaffirming his place as a top ten fighter.
I think if he can finish his next challenger there is an argument for him cracking a top 5 list.


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