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post #231 of 266 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 03:12 PM
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I wish Nate had hands like Nick.

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post #232 of 266 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 03:38 PM
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Nick is a top 5 striker at 170 IMO.

Off the subject I don't understand how Thiago Alves is still top 5 as a WW when he hasn't had a WW win since 2008.

he's 2-2 in his last 4. And hasn't even made 170lbs 2 out of his last four fights.


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post #233 of 266 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 03:56 PM
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I love how you can show people proof that Daiz took the fight and all they have to come back with is "oh the numbers are wrong" lol.


http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/10/...ic-report.html

Its simple even though you dont like him he won convincingly again reaffirming his place as a top ten fighter.
Thats all it is. the people who don't like diaz are the ones who thought noons won.

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post #234 of 266 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 04:17 PM
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Nick is a top 5 striker at 170 IMO.

Off the subject I don't understand how Thiago Alves is still top 5 as a WW when he hasn't had a WW win since 2008.

he's 2-2 in his last 4. And hasn't even made 170lbs 2 out of his last four fights.
I think it's just a sign that no-one other that Kos and Fitch have stepped up yet in the WW division.
Hardy went on a good run as did Kampmann, Paulo Thiago and Paul Daley but all had a loss when looking like breaking the top 5.

I appeciate Nick Diaz is a good fighter but he has only fought at 170lbs 4 times since the start of 2007 and Noons, Zaromskis and Sakurai are far from the world's best Welterweights!

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post #235 of 266 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 04:18 PM
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I love how you can show people proof that Daiz took the fight and all they have to come back with is "oh the numbers are wrong" lol.


http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/10/...ic-report.html

Its simple even though you dont like him he won convincingly again reaffirming his place as a top ten fighter.
Made up numbers by a site that has been proven to be horribly inaccurate on multiple occasions is not proof.
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Noons needs to get his hair cut.... He must have moved his hair out of his eyes atleast 100 times during the fight.. Someone needs to tell him you dont get points for that.
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post #237 of 266 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 04:54 PM
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Nick is a top 5 striker at 170 IMO.

Off the subject I don't understand how Thiago Alves is still top 5 as a WW when he hasn't had a WW win since 2008.

he's 2-2 in his last 4. And hasn't even made 170lbs 2 out of his last four fights.
Alves is extremely overrated for no reason.

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post #238 of 266 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 05:08 PM
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Made up numbers by a site that has been proven to be horribly inaccurate on multiple occasions is not proof.
Id love to see that proof, you make the accusation then it's your responsibility to provide the proof they are "horribly inaccurate" and I dont understand why if as you say fight-metric is so far off base the UFC decided to make them a exclusive affiliate.

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They score the fight using the ten point must system as well as fightmetric's scoring system and some fights you will see a fighter win using one scoring system and lose using the other, that was not the case with this fight and Diaz won regardless of the system used. Now I dont see Fightmetric as the be all end all either but it is a good tool and cuts through the bias's.

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post #239 of 266 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 05:44 PM
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Next for Diaz / Noons?

Is it simply Winner vs Diaz and Loser vs Noons of the Paul Daley vs Scott Smith fight?
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post #240 of 266 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 05:50 PM
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Diaz has got to fight Daley and Mayhem then move to the UFC.

The likes of Masvidal, Woodley, Beerbohm and Hieron are good fighters but aren't fights that are gonna help Nick become recognised as one of the top P4P in the world - only fighting in the UFC will.

As for Noons he has a lot of good fights at WW and LW in Strikeforce. I would love to see him fight Evangelista Santos! That would be a war!

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