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10-11-2010, 09:18 AM
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Right after the fight there was the proof guys! The SF stats showed it all..
Noons landed twice as many punches then Diaz in the entire fight!
He stopped all of Diaz Takedowns = wich means Octagon Control!
Nearly every third punch from KJ was a power punch, not like those jabs Diaz throw.
Plus KJ did more damage as well!
I thought he won that fight as a whole, but under this scoring system I understand the decision.
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10-11-2010, 10:12 AM
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#252 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyCooper
Right after the fight there was the proof guys! The SF stats showed it all..
Noons landed twice as many punches then Diaz in the entire fight!
He stopped all of Diaz Takedowns = wich means Octagon Control!
Nearly every third punch from KJ was a power punch, not like those jabs Diaz throw.
Plus KJ did more damage as well!
I thought he won that fight as a whole, but under this scoring system I understand the decision.
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Look at the compustrike numbers and I think you'll find Diaz landed more.
http://compustrike.com/stats_files/s...ce_10_9_10.php
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10-11-2010, 10:27 AM
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#253 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by slapshot
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But those are not the ones I have seen right after fight from Strikeforce. They had something like 360-620 for KJ and 160-350 for Diaz.
So where these stats totally incorrect?
Standing Time: 13:41 | Ground Time: 1:19 And this can't be right too. 
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10-11-2010, 11:54 AM
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#254 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper
But those are not the ones I have seen right after fight from Strikeforce. They had something like 360-620 for KJ and 160-350 for Diaz.
So where these stats totally incorrect?
Standing Time: 13:41 | Ground Time: 1:19 And this can't be right too. 
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The time seems about right, they really didn't spend a lot of time on the ground. I saw the numbers you are talking about and I dont know how compustrike operates or if they go back over fights and re-tally like fightmetric dose.
The one thing people seem to forget when looking at raw numbers is that they dont account for round by round scoring so you really cant look at compustrike numbers and have a understanding of who won the fight, its still a tool but not the best.
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10-11-2010, 01:11 PM
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#255 (permalink)
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Broken Jaw Round 1, Broken Left Hand Round 2
WOW
That might also explain, why he was so different in the third round! He completely destroyed Diaz in the second.
Thoughts??
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10-11-2010, 01:28 PM
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#256 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper
But those are not the ones I have seen right after fight from Strikeforce. They had something like 360-620 for KJ and 160-350 for Diaz.
So where these stats totally incorrect?
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That's what I saw too, Noons had a bit over 600 strikes thrown and Diaz had 400-450 attempted strikes. Both of them landed around half their strikes.
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Standing Time: 13:41 | Ground Time: 1:19 And this can't be right too.
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Definitely can't be right, that only adds up to 15 minutes and it was a 25 minute title fight.
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10-11-2010, 03:25 PM
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#257 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyCooper
Right after the fight there was the proof guys! The SF stats showed it all..
Noons landed twice as many punches then Diaz in the entire fight!
He stopped all of Diaz Takedowns = wich means Octagon Control!
Nearly every third punch from KJ was a power punch, not like those jabs Diaz throw.
Plus KJ did more damage as well!
I thought he won that fight as a whole, but under this scoring system I understand the decision.
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FightMetric had this solidly for Diaz.
http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/10/...ic-report.html
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His helmet was stifling, it narrowed his vision. And he must see far. His shield was heavy. It threw him off balance. And his target is far away.
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10-11-2010, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HexRei
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To be honest I can't figure them out. Right after the fight I have seen way different stats, then I saw computerstrikes and now this.. I don't know what is the truth here!
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10-11-2010, 03:37 PM
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#259 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyCooper
To be honest I can't figure them out. Right after the fight I have seen way different stats, then I saw computerstrikes and now this.. I don't know what is the truth here!
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At the end of the day Computers don't score fights people do, the starts that those screen pull up don't mean sh1t, they are nothing more that a gadget SF are using to give people something to talk about, there is only one way to win by decision and that is to impress the judges more than the other guy.
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10-11-2010, 08:15 PM
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#260 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyCooper
WOW
That might also explain, why he was so different in the third round! He completely destroyed Diaz in the second.
Thoughts??
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Well if he walked out of that round with a broken jaw, Diaz ain't the only one that was taking shots.
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