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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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08-26-2010, 06:16 AM
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Amateur
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Manchester, England
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Throw Fedor in with Lashley then, all i'm saying is Fedor going in there coming off a loss and getting beat again at this minute in time does neither Overeem or Fedor any favours. Put him in there against a decent heavyweight and lets see if he had an off day or has actually lost his hunger. Then give him Overeem.
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08-26-2010, 06:17 AM
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#22 (permalink)
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The Recipe
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Estonia
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I'd love to see Overeem-Fedor but i don't want this so soon. Werdum should get the title fight first, not Fedor. Sure Fabricio is injured and Fedor healthy, they shouldn't give the loser a title fight, whether it is Fedor Emelianenko or not.
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08-26-2010, 06:48 AM
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#23 (permalink)
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Middleweight
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Essex, UK
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The only way SF can make it worth while for Overeem to take this fight is if they get Werdum to sign a contract saying that when he returns from injury his next professional fight will be the winner of Overeem vs Fedor, Then it gives Overeem the chance to get what he wants both ways, if he can beat both Fedor then Werdum there is no doubt about who is the best at SF, in fact it makes his path to holding his belt tougher than expected and if he wins both those fights there will be no question that he is one of the best if not the best HW in the world.
So if SF can guarantee him the Werdum match after (should he win of course) then he should take this fight, in fact even if they cant get Werdum to agree they then should let the world know that Werdum is dodging him and not give him the Fedor rematch that he wants ether.
In fact SF could be on to a huge win if Overeem beats Fedor, it will take all the light out of Werdums victory over him and cause a situation where the only course of action is to see Werdum vs Overeem and Werdum would loose a ton of respect that he has earned via defeating Fedor should he then dodge Overeem if Overeem has defeated Fedor also, becasue right now Werdum is living on the legacy that he is the only man to beat Fedor.
With Werdum been injured this fight makes a lot of sense as well, we all want to see both these guys fight and with Werdum injured its hard to dispute that Fedor is the No.1 contender coming off a loss or not, but this fight should it happen should defiantly define who Werdum fights next, ether Fedor wins and Werdum gets his rematch and title shot, or Overeem wins and Werdum has to fight the only other guy to beat Fedor.
Last edited by KillerShark1985 : 08-26-2010 at 06:51 AM.
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08-26-2010, 06:55 AM
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#24 (permalink)
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Middleweight
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wimbledon, UK
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Strikeforce giving their fighters the right to pick and choose their fights = EPIC FAIL!
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08-26-2010, 08:15 AM
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Great Googly Moogly!
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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So pre Werdum vs Fedor things went like this
Overeem wanted Fedor
Werdum wanted Fedor
Fedor wanted Werdum
Post Werdum vs Fedor
Overeem wants Werdum
Werdum wants Fedor
Fedor wants Overeem.
You guys....ya'll crazy
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08-26-2010, 08:50 AM
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#26 (permalink)
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Featherweight
Join Date: Feb 2010
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What a bitch move, he didn't mind fighting Rogers who was coming of a loss. Beating Fedor would pump up his resume. After all that smack talk from AO's part I can only say, don't be scared homie.
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08-26-2010, 08:53 AM
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#27 (permalink)
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Speed Kills
Join Date: Jun 2009
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I don't see the problem at all. To be honest, Fedor is not the #1 contender for that title anymore. Werdum is and Werdum should get the shot. It is completely reasonable and understandable for Overeem to want Fedor. When Fedor wins a fight or two and earns the shot like Werdum did, then Fedor can have his shot.
Now, had Fedor won the fight and was still the legitimate #1 contender, then Overeem would be ducking him. But this is not the case at all.
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08-26-2010, 09:16 AM
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Middleweight
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HitOrGetHit
I don't see the problem at all. To be honest, Fedor is not the #1 contender for that title anymore. Werdum is and Werdum should get the shot. It is completely reasonable and understandable for Overeem to want Fedor. When Fedor wins a fight or two and earns the shot like Werdum did, then Fedor can have his shot.
Now, had Fedor won the fight and was still the legitimate #1 contender, then Overeem would be ducking him. But this is not the case at all.
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I would disagree with Werdum been injured, Fedor is the current No.1 contender until Werdum returns from his injury.
Then after once Werdum is fit he should face the winner of Overeem/Fedor for the title.
Right now Werdum is living on the fact that he is the only person to beat Fedor, so should Overeem fight and also beat Fedor, it would be a great build up to see the only 2 fighters who have beat Fedor got face to face for the title, if Fedor wins then we get the Werdum vs Fedor rematch with the possibility of Fedor reclaiming his stake as the worlds No.1 and better still it will be a title fight.
In fact the more I think about it the more sense it makes to do this, because if Werdum faces Overeem now and Overeem wins then it leaves grey over Fedor's position because was Werdum's win over Fedor a fluke, in which case Overeem still has to face Fedor anyway to stake his indisputable claim to be No.1, so he should defiantly take this fight while Werdum is injured and then should he beat Fedor he should then have the chance to face Werdum when he returns.
Last edited by KillerShark1985 : 08-26-2010 at 09:19 AM.
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08-26-2010, 09:40 AM
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#29 (permalink)
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Amatuer
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Overeem’s intentions to compete in K-1 are not a surprise. The Golden Glory fighter stated his likely participation back in June following Emelianenko’s stunning 69-second submission defeat to Werdum, a heavy underdog in the bout, in San Jose, Calif. In June, Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker also gave Overeem his blessing to pursue his dream to become a K-1 champion, though it meant the San Jose-based promotion could lose its champion until early 2011.
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Fedor called out someone who said had already stated he was going to compete in K-1 in that time period. End of discussion. This doesn't look bad on Overeem to me so much as why would Fedor and Co. call out someone who they knew wasn't available?
So IMO, Overeem isn't ducking Fedor.
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08-26-2010, 09:57 AM
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#30 (permalink)
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Speed Kills
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I would like to see Fedor fight Antonio Silva before fighting Werdum or Overeem.
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