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Top Fighters W/ Biggest holes in game

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#1 ·
1. Shields: Striking
2. Carwin: stamina
3. R. Nelson: Beer Belly (sometimes an asset)
4.Thales Leites : Balls
5.Gegard Mousasi: TDD
 
#28 ·
How do you say that about a guy who has dropped 80% of his opponents with punches? Lesnar's stand up may not be pretty but its has been effective against almost everyone he has fought.
 
#14 ·
Yeah, how exactly does coming back from getting battered in the 1st Round against a beast like Shane Carwin to win by submission in the 2nd show lack of heart?
 
#17 ·
Shogun - Injuries :(
Couture and Forrest - Punching power
Sonnen - Sub defense
Fitch - Ability to finish
GSP - Ability to finish :(
Franklin - Ability to beat left handed Brazilians
Rampage - Any type of diverse striking or diverse anything really
Big Nog - Super slow boxing
Mir - gameplanning
CroCop - Fire under his ass
Pat Berry - Any type of ground game
BJ Penn - Mental focus
Kendall Grove - A non stupid nickname
 
#19 ·
Shogun - Injuries :(
Couture and Forrest - Punching power
Sonnen - Sub defense
Fitch - Ability to finish
GSP - Ability to finish :(
Franklin - Ability to beat left handed Brazilians
Rampage - Any type of diverse striking or diverse anything really
Big Nog - Super slow boxing
Mir - gameplanning
CroCop - Fire under his ass
Pat Berry - Any type of ground game
BJ Penn - Mental focus
Kendall Grove - A non stupid nickname
But the difference between these two is at least GSP is trying to finish the fight. It's not his fault Dan Hardy is also Gumby.
 
#18 ·
Diego -- repetitive and maybe somewhat predictable.
BJ Penn -- counters too much. Needs to take the initiative, and make the first move sometimes to change up his game.
Mir -- no wrestling to go to the ground and work his bjj.
Leben -- limited striking defense / non-technical.
Liddell -- should probably be working his wrestling & gnp if his chin is gone.
Rampage -- relies too much on punching power. He either KO's someone or loses on points if he can't connect. He needs a 3rd option.
Bisping & Forrest -- both don't commit to their strikes.
 
#20 ·
Mir - Gameplans
Maia - Standup (though i believe he's working hard on it)
Nelson - Speed
Bisping - Aggression
Alves - Weight cutting
Rumble Johnson - Weight cutting

And as a group - British fighters and their wrestling capabilities. We suffer from a huge disadvantage here because we dont learn wrestling at all throughout school/college. And there are very very few wrestling schools to train at in the UK.
 
#21 ·
A. Silva: TTD
sonnen: Sub defense
sherk: Reach
sheilds: striking
Machida: Leg kicks
BJ penn: work ethic
Kos: striking
i would not say carwin has a bad gas tank yet any HW fighter that threw that may punches in that amount of time would be gassed. I would say he is impatient and doest pack his punches like he should.
 
#31 ·
Now, you can do this two ways.

Who's the best fighter with a big hole in his game?

Brock Lesnar's a top fighter in the division and his standup is pretty abysmal. That's the easy call. I mean, watching When I watch Brock Lesnar box, I wonder who put four-ounce gloves on an 800 pound gorilla and put double sided tape on the bottoms of his feet.

Of good fighters, who's the one with the biggest hole in his game?

I love me some Anthony Johnson, but that man's jiu-jitsu is facepalm worthy. It makes me sad. :(
 
#38 ·
Brock Lesnar has to improve his striking, and i'm pretty sure that after 116 he is going to do it. He just does not seem comfortable during exchanges.

Mousasi's loss to King Mo really made everybody think about his TDD defense, since he was talked of being the future of the division, i look at him as a top fighter with a big hole.
 
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