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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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08-28-2010, 02:16 AM
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True Grappler
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Now, you can do this two ways.
Who's the best fighter with a big hole in his game?
Brock Lesnar's a top fighter in the division and his standup is pretty abysmal. That's the easy call. I mean, watching When I watch Brock Lesnar box, I wonder who put four-ounce gloves on an 800 pound gorilla and put double sided tape on the bottoms of his feet.
Of good fighters, who's the one with the biggest hole in his game?
I love me some Anthony Johnson, but that man's jiu-jitsu is facepalm worthy. It makes me sad. 
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08-28-2010, 01:14 PM
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MMA Fanatic
Join Date: May 2010
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Josh Koscheck: Inability to instigate an exciting fight.
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08-28-2010, 01:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terror Kovenant
JDS hasn't really been tested BJJ wise in the UFC, not enough info to speak on that.
Rashad has only been KO'd once, kinda hard to say he has a weak chin.
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Rashad has been shown to have a terrible chin. He is very easily rocked. His fights with silva, and Rampage he was hit with one solid shot, and took a full round to recover. and the only reason Silva didnt finish him was because he chose to taunt him. Once he gets rocked, he takes far to long to recover.
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08-28-2010, 05:42 PM
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MMA Fanatic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jesterhead
Josh Koscheck: Inability to instigate an exciting fight.
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Can't stand that D-Bag!!
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08-28-2010, 06:02 PM
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Kneel Before Christ!
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elitemmagoer
Rashad has been shown to have a terrible chin. He is very easily rocked. His fights with silva, and Rampage he was hit with one solid shot, and took a full round to recover. and the only reason Silva didnt finish him was because he chose to taunt him. Once he gets rocked, he takes far to long to recover.
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Nah, Thiago had a bad back and ran out of gas. He didn't have anything left before that, that's why he kept taunting to try to get Rashad to come to him. Rashad was stupid and did but once he didn't get KO'd, Thiago couldn't do shit but hope Rashad came to him again.
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08-30-2010, 12:53 PM
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Shogun
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdtcpl
I did mean Sonnen, you are 100% correct. Not sure how I screwed that one up.
Silva actually does have pretty bad TDD. Blame it on his unwillingness to change his stand up stance or style, but he leaves himself open. I'm not just saying because of the Sonnen fight, I have said it about him for a while. Granted this is the third time in the UFC he has proven why he doesn't mind the ground as he won by sub again. I think he just doesn't care. To get him down you have to come within his striking range, and if you get him to the ground his lanky limbs make him just as dangerous standing up.
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hmmm well you might have a point, i was thinking that he hasn't been taken down many times. But that could be because he hasn't faced alot of wrestlers. Hendo took him down as well so i guess his TDD is kinda mediocre.
Or like you said he just doesnt care if he gets taken down or not since he's been winning anyway.
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08-31-2010, 08:03 AM
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Flyweight
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxic
How do you say that about a guy who has dropped 80% of his opponents with punches? Lesnar's stand up may not be pretty but its has been effective against almost everyone he has fought.
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I don't think he's comfortable exchanging, and he panics during exchanges. He's not awful, but that's a hole in his game.
We are talking about fighters with the biggest holes.
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08-31-2010, 08:36 AM
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The Recipe
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Brock Lesnar has to improve his striking, and i'm pretty sure that after 116 he is going to do it. He just does not seem comfortable during exchanges.
Mousasi's loss to King Mo really made everybody think about his TDD defense, since he was talked of being the future of the division, i look at him as a top fighter with a big hole.
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08-31-2010, 08:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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James Toney - Martial Arts not named Boxing
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10-25-2010, 03:45 PM
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All Eyez on Me
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vilify
Lesnar - Heart
Chuck - Chin
Rampage - being one dimensional
Sonnen - learn basic BJJ and quit talking so much shit
GSP - stop humping people for so long it bores the fans
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dav35
how exactly does lesnar lack heart? 
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Do I still need to explain 
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