Terrible scoring criteria is what is ruining MMA, not wrestlers.
Agreed. A takedown means SOMETHING, though. It means you can control where the fight goes. BUT...I think one clean punch should count about as much as a takedown followed by zero damage, zero sub attempts, etc.
I am getting sick of this "if you don't like wrestling, watch K-1" BS. I don't want to watch a wrestling match. If you DO, go watch WRESTLING. I think UNPRODUCTIVE wrestling and lay-n-pray needs to be aggressively removed from MMA. Control without damage is not FIGHTING. COntrol without damage is not WINNING. It is just avoiding a loss. Chael vs. Anderson...masterful use of wrestling to get into dominant position. Wearing someone down on the ground, grinding them, and them going for the finish...that is, and SHOULD be what a top level wrestler does. But simply holding someone down with wrestling, and controling their position is not MMA. Yes, it is (and should be) a PART of winning a fight, but I think it does a disservice to MMA to allow it to continue unabated.
There are those who argue that enforcing new rules to minimize unproductive wrestling would take away from the "as real as it gets" nature of MMA. I could not disagree more strongly. If this was "real" and a wrestler had me in side control or N-S...I would grab the jewels and pull-start the mower, if you know what I mean. But that is against the rules. You want to be able to lay-n-pray? OK, groin strikes and fish-hooking are now legal vs. wrestlers after 15 unproductive seconds.
OK, I'm gonna step off my soap-box now.....
Short version: Wrestling is GREAT. Top level wrestling is a wonderful part of MMA. If you are not at least TRYING to do damage (not neccesarily finish, but do damage, do more than control position and lay-n-pray), you are NOT FIGHTING. If you're not fighting, I don't want to watch. I love grappling. I love striking. Let's not take the (first ) M out of MMA.