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The Amarok 09-08-2010 01:45 PM

Top 5 fighters OUTSIDE the UFC/Zuffa
 
Bantamweight: Masakazu Imanari, Masakatsu Ueda, Zach Makovsky.
Featherweight: Bibiano Fernandes, Malron Sandro, Hiroyuki Takaya, Joe Warren, Michihiro Omigawa, Joachim Hansen
Lightweight: Gilbert Melendaz, Shinya Aoki, Eddie Alveraz
Welterweight: Nick Diaz, Paul Daley
Middleweight:Jorge Santiago
Lightheavyweight: Gegard Mousasi (when he wins the DREAM LHW Grand Prix)
Heavyweight: Fedor, Fabricio Werdum

Since Im open-minded,have no promotion loyalty and not a UFC nuthugger, I can see these guys deserve top 5 status

_RIVAL_ 09-08-2010 08:07 PM

Middleweight... Jorge Santiago??

You ever heard of Jacare or Hector Lombard??

tyler90wm 09-08-2010 08:27 PM

Hector Lombard is one of the guys I most want to see in the UFC.

John8204 09-08-2010 08:52 PM

1. Hector Lombard
2. Nick Diaz
3. Fabricio Werdum
4. Shinya Aoki
5. Dan Henderson

Top Five Guys I want back for one-night-only

1. Dan Severn - for his 100th win
2. Fedor Emelianenko - to fight Brock
3. Kazushi Sakuraba - to fight Randy Couture in a Japan
4. Hong-Man Choi - to fight number five
5. Shaq

DJ Syko 09-08-2010 09:04 PM

Lombard? who has the guy beat exactly? anyone with a name who he has faced has beat him.

Diaz
Fedor
Aoki
Melendez
Overeem
Bibiano
Mousasi
Daley

_RIVAL_ 09-08-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ Syko (Post 1262661)
Lombard? who has the guy beat exactly? anyone with a name who he has faced has beat him.

Get outta here he's 20-1-1 in his last 22 fights... you act like he's been losing to ranked fighters every weekend...

He hasn't lost in four years.. he does need a step up in competition but dude is smashing everybody that any promotion puts in front of him... right now he looks in his prime... I'd bet all my credits that he'd rip Jorge Santiagos head off whom of which I questioned when I named Lombard..

Magnataro 09-08-2010 09:56 PM

Ticked most of who i would pick there Syko, i'd add Werdum and i would love to see some K-1 guys like Pete Aerts and Scemmy schilt, maybe badir hari etc.
Would love to see a Clash of the titans, maybe Overeem vs Brock, I wonder who would be stronger! or maybe throw in Marious pudzinowski vs Hong man choi lol and james tony could ref it, wouldnt be a sideshow at all! haha.

smittyssports 09-08-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler90wm (Post 1262643)
Hector Lombard is one of the guys I most want to see in the UFC.

it would be difficult for me to pick the top 5 outside of the UFC because there are many good fighters not in the UFC, however I do agree Lombard does need a step up in competition, and he is up towards the top for middleweights not in the UFC.

Toxic 09-08-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Amarok (Post 1262340)
Bantamweight: Masakazu Imanari, Masakatsu Ueda, Zach Makovsky.
Featherweight: Bibiano Fernandes, Malron Sandro, Hiroyuki Takaya, Joe Warren, Michihiro Omigawa, Joachim Hansen
Lightweight: Gilbert Melendaz, Shinya Aoki, Eddie Alveraz
Welterweight: Nick Diaz, Paul Daley
Middleweight:Jorge Santiago
Lightheavyweight: Gegard Mousasi (when he wins the DREAM LHW Grand Prix)
Heavyweight: Fedor, Fabricio Werdum

Since Im open-minded,have no promotion loyalty and not a UFC nuthugger, I can see these guys deserve top 5 status

Who has Paul Daley beat to be top 5? I mean you can't compare him to GSP, KOS, Fitch, Shields, Diaz. Even though he beat Kampmann right now I would even rate him above Daley. Daley would top 10 right now but at the end not top 5.

_RIVAL_ 09-09-2010 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 1262722)
Who has Paul Daley beat to be top 5? I mean you can't compare him to GSP, KOS, Fitch, Shields, Diaz. Even though he beat Kampmann right now I would even rate him above Daley. Daley would top 10 right now but at the end not top 5.

The UFC highley promoted him.

That promotion can really rub off on fans sometimes.

Look at Dan Henderson... he was #2 middleweight in the world.

1 loss to an extremley dangerous and skilled fighter in another organization and absolutley no promotion and he's fallen off of almost everybodys top 10 MW list even though he holds victories over Okami, Belfort, Bisbing, and Palhares, all of which are in the top 10.


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