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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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09-08-2010, 01:45 PM
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Flyweight
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Top 5 fighters OUTSIDE the UFC/Zuffa
Bantamweight: Masakazu Imanari, Masakatsu Ueda, Zach Makovsky.
Featherweight: Bibiano Fernandes, Malron Sandro, Hiroyuki Takaya, Joe Warren, Michihiro Omigawa, Joachim Hansen
Lightweight: Gilbert Melendaz, Shinya Aoki, Eddie Alveraz
Welterweight: Nick Diaz, Paul Daley
Middleweight:Jorge Santiago
Lightheavyweight: Gegard Mousasi (when he wins the DREAM LHW Grand Prix)
Heavyweight: Fedor, Fabricio Werdum
Since Im open-minded,have no promotion loyalty and not a UFC nuthugger, I can see these guys deserve top 5 status
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BW: Masakazu Imanari FW: Hastu Hioki LW:Eddie Alveraz WW: Mauris Zaromskis MW: Hector Lombard LHW: Christian M'Pumbu HW: Sergei Kharintonov
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09-08-2010, 08:07 PM
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-NOW YOU SLEEP-
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Middleweight... Jorge Santiago??
You ever heard of Jacare or Hector Lombard??
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09-08-2010, 08:27 PM
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Amateur
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tennessee
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Hector Lombard is one of the guys I most want to see in the UFC.
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09-08-2010, 08:52 PM
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Super Heavyweight
Join Date: May 2010
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1. Hector Lombard
2. Nick Diaz
3. Fabricio Werdum
4. Shinya Aoki
5. Dan Henderson
Top Five Guys I want back for one-night-only
1. Dan Severn - for his 100th win
2. Fedor Emelianenko - to fight Brock
3. Kazushi Sakuraba - to fight Randy Couture in a Japan
4. Hong-Man Choi - to fight number five
5. Shaq
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09-08-2010, 09:04 PM
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To the death George
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sunderland, UK
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Lombard? who has the guy beat exactly? anyone with a name who he has faced has beat him.
Diaz
Fedor
Aoki
Melendez
Overeem
Bibiano
Mousasi
Daley
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09-08-2010, 09:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Syko
Lombard? who has the guy beat exactly? anyone with a name who he has faced has beat him.
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Get outta here he's 20-1-1 in his last 22 fights... you act like he's been losing to ranked fighters every weekend...
He hasn't lost in four years.. he does need a step up in competition but dude is smashing everybody that any promotion puts in front of him... right now he looks in his prime... I'd bet all my credits that he'd rip Jorge Santiagos head off whom of which I questioned when I named Lombard..
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09-08-2010, 09:56 PM
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MMA Fanatic
Join Date: May 2010
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Ticked most of who i would pick there Syko, i'd add Werdum and i would love to see some K-1 guys like Pete Aerts and Scemmy schilt, maybe badir hari etc.
Would love to see a Clash of the titans, maybe Overeem vs Brock, I wonder who would be stronger! or maybe throw in Marious pudzinowski vs Hong man choi lol and james tony could ref it, wouldnt be a sideshow at all! haha.
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09-08-2010, 10:01 PM
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MMA Fanatic
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Louisiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyler90wm
Hector Lombard is one of the guys I most want to see in the UFC.
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it would be difficult for me to pick the top 5 outside of the UFC because there are many good fighters not in the UFC, however I do agree Lombard does need a step up in competition, and he is up towards the top for middleweights not in the UFC.
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09-08-2010, 10:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Amarok
Bantamweight: Masakazu Imanari, Masakatsu Ueda, Zach Makovsky.
Featherweight: Bibiano Fernandes, Malron Sandro, Hiroyuki Takaya, Joe Warren, Michihiro Omigawa, Joachim Hansen
Lightweight: Gilbert Melendaz, Shinya Aoki, Eddie Alveraz
Welterweight: Nick Diaz, Paul Daley
Middleweight:Jorge Santiago
Lightheavyweight: Gegard Mousasi (when he wins the DREAM LHW Grand Prix)
Heavyweight: Fedor, Fabricio Werdum
Since Im open-minded,have no promotion loyalty and not a UFC nuthugger, I can see these guys deserve top 5 status
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Who has Paul Daley beat to be top 5? I mean you can't compare him to GSP, KOS, Fitch, Shields, Diaz. Even though he beat Kampmann right now I would even rate him above Daley. Daley would top 10 right now but at the end not top 5.
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09-09-2010, 12:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxic
Who has Paul Daley beat to be top 5? I mean you can't compare him to GSP, KOS, Fitch, Shields, Diaz. Even though he beat Kampmann right now I would even rate him above Daley. Daley would top 10 right now but at the end not top 5.
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The UFC highley promoted him.
That promotion can really rub off on fans sometimes.
Look at Dan Henderson... he was #2 middleweight in the world.
1 loss to an extremley dangerous and skilled fighter in another organization and absolutley no promotion and he's fallen off of almost everybodys top 10 MW list even though he holds victories over Okami, Belfort, Bisbing, and Palhares, all of which are in the top 10.
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MMAForum.....You Know You Love It..
_RIVALS TOP 15_
ANDERSON "THE SPIDER" SILVA
JAKE SHIELDS
NICK DIAZ
GEORGES "RUSH" ST PIERRE
EDDIE ALVAREZ
JON "BONES" JONES
ALASTAIR OVEREEM
JUNIOR "CIGANO" DOS SANTOS
GILBERT MELENDEZ
MAMED "THE CANNIBAL" KHALIDOV
HECTOR "SHANGO" LOMBARD
CAIN VELASQUEZ
GEGARD "THE DREAM CATCHER" MOUSASI
MIGUEL TORRES
JOSE ALDO
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