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09-11-2010, 09:56 PM
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like Paul Harris, Jeff Monson is a guy that legitimately scares me.
he would be a wise pick up for any org, altho he isnt always the most exciting.
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09-12-2010, 01:18 AM
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Yeah, he probably could've been a legitimate replacement for Barnett but Affliction didn't think so. As a result Affliction called it quits and came back to the UFC on their knees! 
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I don't know why so many people thought Monson wasn't a threat, Fedor has had his toughest fights against good grappler's and I always thought a real elite level grappler was his worst match up. I realize Werdum and Monson are not the same kind of grappler but look what happened when Fedor finally faced a grappler of that level.
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09-12-2010, 01:21 AM
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I agree. Though Fedor has finsihed alot of fights in grappling situations, he's always had to reach a lot farther to pull them off when he's faced a fighter who knows his way around the block on the mat...
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09-12-2010, 01:33 AM
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Well if look even before the Werdum fight you have Arona who should have beat him, Babalu, Nog.
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09-12-2010, 01:50 AM
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I think like Ricco Rodriguez its the fact they are both working towards dropping to LHW which leaves them in a weird void were they have yet to prove they can make the cut and still fight effectively. I think if either guy picks up a win at 205 and looks good they will have SF or the UFC banging on there door.
I would like to add Monson's striking isn't that bad, its rudimentary but it works as long as he isn't fighting tall fighters (with his height tall fighters are his kryptonite). He did drop Barnette in there fight and its not like Josh hasn't fought some great guys.
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this ^
and at 205 this guy is going to sub the shit out of people.
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09-12-2010, 02:14 AM
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I'm wondering if Monson and Ricco can really make the cut though. However, both of those guys certainly stand more of a chance at making the cut to lightheavyweight than Mir does. Personally I don't think Mir could make it without seriously endangering his health! 
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09-12-2010, 02:34 AM
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I'm wondering if Monson and Ricco can really make the cut though. However, both of those guys certainly stand more of a chance at making the cut to lightheavyweight than Mir does. Personally I don't think Mir could make it without seriously endangering his health! 
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Mir?
No way.
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09-12-2010, 08:45 AM
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its a shame that strikeforce isnt signing a guy like monson, one of the best grapplers and just great character, perfect for stirkeforce!
If he drops to 205 we will se some great fights!
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09-12-2010, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kantowrestler
I'm wondering if Monson and Ricco can really make the cut though. However, both of those guys certainly stand more of a chance at making the cut to lightheavyweight than Mir does. Personally I don't think Mir could make it without seriously endangering his health! 
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Monson has fought at 205 before but looked drained so he has to find a better way but its do able. Ricco has dropped a lot of weight and is only walking around at 22? some pounds. He looks way different so making 205 is definitely an option.
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09-12-2010, 09:12 PM
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Yeah, but for right now Ricco is going to fight at heavyweight for Bellator, which should be interesting against a talent pool of mostly rising stars. Monson though should be interesting! 
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