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**IronMan** · 01-27-2007, 07:13 PM

Of all of the legends in modern street fighting, there are only a few that really impress me. One of those guys, perhaps the greatest of those guys, is "Lightning" Lee Murray.

Some may remember Lee Murray from UFC 46. Lee was brought into the UFC to fight Jorge Rivera. The reputation and the back-story behind this fight legendary. Though it's not necessarily between Murray and Rivera, it's between Murray and a man much more well known in MMA, "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Tito Ortiz.

The story goes that after UFC 38, Tito and Lee ran into each other in a London nightclub, both drunk. They started to fight and Lee punched Tito in the face, knocking down Ortiz, and then kicked him in the head. In the words of Pat Miletich, who is one of the witnesses, "Lee lit him up like a Christmas tree and kicked his head like a football."

Lee destroyed Rivera in one of the most dominant displays by a British fighter ever in the UFC. It's certainly one of the best submission victories in the history of the UFC middleweight division.

After the fight with Rivera, Lee never returned to the UFC and lost to current UFC middleweight champ Anderson "The Spider" Silva. Anderson could not finish the Brit, but was the last fight of Lee Murray's professional MMA career.

Lee dropped off of the radar for a few years until he was stabbed in London club. He suffered from a punctured lung and a severed artery. Lee was resusitated 4 times by the doctor and give a large amount of blood. He survived the stabbing.

On the 25th of June, 2006, Murray was arrested in Morocco in connection with the largest British cash robbery, known as the Securitas depot robbery. The amount stolen was roughly 53 million Pounds. For those of you who aren't familiar with the pound (I'm not either), that's 92.5 million American dollars, or 78 million Euro.

Not exactly a standup guy, but a great fighter and an interesting character.

**Damone** · 01-27-2007, 08:29 PM

I wouldn't call Lee Murray "great", but he was a solid fighter. He beat Rivera back when he(Rivera) was pretty damn solid. I think Murray would've been a solid addition to the MW division, but his sleazebaggery attitude got him locked up.

Word is that Lee was feared by pretty much everyone who knew him. I'd believe that.

**brownpimp88** · 01-28-2007, 12:54 AM

I heard that they were going to set up a Lee Murray vs Tito fight, but then he had some problems and it never happened.

spearsoldier · 01-28-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Damone

Word is that Lee was feared by pretty much everyone who knew him. I'd believe that.

I wouldnt. I never liked the guy from the moment I saw his ugly face.

Tito via brutual GnP.

Franklin via brutual KO

and even, *gasp* GOMIGOMIGOMIGOMIGOMI via weakassgomi strike.

anton · 01-28-2007, 07:42 PM

any fight videos?

**IronMan** · 01-28-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spearsoldier

I wouldnt. I never liked the guy from the moment I saw his ugly face.

Tito via brutual GnP.

Franklin via brutual KO

and even, *gasp* GOMIGOMIGOMIGOMIGOMI via weakassgomi strike.

This makes me wonder if you even read. We are talking about a guy who whipped Tito's ass on the street and is exciting enough that he would never let Tito pull any of that layngay crap. Not good for Tito.

Franklin's a better matchup and would probably KO Murray, but Anderson couldn't finish Lee, I doubt Rich could.

And Gomi, well, that's just being stupid.

**WouldLuv2FightU** · 01-28-2007, 08:28 PM

Lee was an exciting fighter. One of the most exciting I've ever seen. Woulda been nice if he got his act together he woulda been huge in the UFC right now.

**IronMan** · 01-29-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WouldLuv2FightU

Lee was an exciting fighter. One of the most exciting I've ever seen. Woulda been nice if he got his act together he woulda been huge in the UFC right now.

Yeah, I don't know what he was sentenced to, but I know that if he's convicted he has to serve time in Morrocco and then in England, so it could be a while before he ever fights again.

Damn shame.

**jdun11** · 01-29-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan

This makes me wonder if you even read. We are talking about a guy who whipped Tito's ass on the street and is exciting enough that he would never let Tito pull any of that layngay crap. Not good for Tito.

Franklin's a better matchup and would probably KO Murray, but Anderson couldn't finish Lee, I doubt Rich could.

And Gomi, well, that's just being stupid.

I dont know why you always say Tito is a lay and pray fighter. Outside of Fedor and Coleman, he has the most vicious ground and pound in MMA. He is one of the few guys who can do damage while in someones guard. Granted he may not be the most exciting fighter, but to call him a lay and pray fighter is a bit harsh. I agree with alot of your posts but when it comes to Tito I gotta disagree with you.

**jdun11** · 01-29-2007, 02:41 PM

I think Lee was a goof fighter though, I would have loved to see him spice up the MW divsion. But I agree with spearsoldier, Tito would have handled him. A fight with him and Rich would have been fun to watch. Too bad he is gonna be away for at least 20 years. Thats 100 million dollars thats crazy. That makes Jimmy Conway's Lufthansa Heist look like peanuts.

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