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Old 09-29-2010, 06:27 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Obviously I do not know you personally and can't speak to your conditioning, but it may be a combination of both. No one would argue that smoking doesn't harm your cardio and lung capacity and I am sure any coach would pressure their fighter to quit smoking (as well as any doctor, beyond fighting reasons). With that said I think it is safe to say the Lentz is more of an exception than he is the rule.

Still, I am sure intense cardio training can combat some of the detrimental cardio-effects of smoking.
Lol i actually have some hardcore weed smoker friends. (First time i used hardcore and weed in the same sentence)... that smoke like couple times a day every day AND they will argue to death that smoking weed has expanded their lungs thus have improved their endurance by being able to carry more oxygen

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Old 09-29-2010, 08:19 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Most people dont understand how much smoke you inhale with a cig and how much you inhale from a hit. Lets see well a cig is a roll full of tobacco and you inhale how many times during the whole time and blow out how much smoke? Where as 1 hit from a piece of glass is enough and its only a small tube of smoke.
Thats really not enough to be damaging to your lungs. And only if you smoke everyday without giving your lungs a little bit of time to heal every once in a while then you'll be fine.

EDIT:"Fortunately, even cases of life-long or otherwise long term smokers, human lung tissue begins the process of healing itself when smoking is ceased."

This mostly applys to tobacco since it REALLY damages the lungs but its the same with weed and even the long-term effects on your memory after smoking for a while stop as soon as the weeds completely out of your system, (30+ days.)

There really are no downsides to smoking once or twice or even 3 times a week so long as you can control it, and everyonce in a while take a break.

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Old 09-29-2010, 01:05 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Weed really shouldn't be used either. Anything that someone smokes affects their endurance. The dude that lost in TUF lost because of a submission but if that fight had gone the actual distance he would've started gassing!
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Old 09-29-2010, 04:58 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I used to smoke, and I found I could deal with training and whatnot and adapted to it but, once I quit smoking I found a huge improvement
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:35 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I used to smoke, and I found I could deal with training and whatnot and adapted to it but, once I quit smoking I found a huge improvement
There we go, point proven! If you smoke it takes away from your total stamina. However, if you don't then you can be at your best!
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:14 AM   #36 (permalink)
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There we go, point proven! If you smoke it takes away from your total stamina. However, if you don't then you can be at your best!
Most fun things aren't really good for you. I also feel there is a pretty strong difference between marijuana and tobacco smoke as well as the way they are consumed. Obviously health-wise smoking isn't going to help you, but then again, alcohol isn't good for someone who trains either, doesn't stop most fighters from indulging at least once in a while. It's about moderation.


Oh, and pt447 is right about the vaporizer. Your lungs don't suffer when you vaporize pot.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:29 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Well regardless of the vaporizer, the fact is it's illegal. If it's not legal why are you going to risk using it?
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Well regardless of the vaporizer, the fact is it's illegal. If it's not legal why are you going to risk using it?
It is in fact legal, at the state level, for many people. Yes, it is technically still illegal federally but Obama has pretty much nullified raids on state-licensed distributors and patients, which means that functionally it's about as illegal as a prescribed painkiller. Nick Diaz, for example, is never going to face legal action for his medical use as long as he stays in states which allow it.

Since you claim to be in California (which has the most medical marijuana prescriptions of any state I believe, and was nearly just decriminalized completely) I'm surprised you don't understand this.

Oh and lastly, I pride myself in having my own moral sense. I don't agree with every law and I don't consider it ok to do everything that isn't explicitly illegal. I think many people feel the same, because laws get broken frequently. In a democracy laws exist to serve the people, not the other way around, and that's why they change so often.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:50 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Yeah, but California has started cracking down on those dispenseries cause the only people who go to them are druggies. Personally, Diaz would probably get a slap on the wrist if he gets caught with weed. Yes, it is a screwed up system but the fact of the matter is the DEA will go after someone who is involved in a drug ring!
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Yeah, but California has started cracking down on those dispenseries cause the only people who go to them are druggies.
They are cracking down on dispensaries that sell to non-medical users. So? They would crack down on a store that sold liquor to minors and a doctor that wrote prescriptions for people who don't need them, as well.

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Personally, Diaz would probably get a slap on the wrist if he gets caught with weed. Yes, it is a screwed up system but the fact of the matter is the DEA will go after someone who is involved in a drug ring!
So you're saying if the california police caught Diaz with weed, he would be punished? Sorry, not if he was within his medical limit. He'd have to be caught by federal authorities and even then they in all likelihood would not go after him as long as he was within California and wasn't carrying more than permitted. I spend a lot of time in Cali by the way, so I'm not oblivious to the situation there.


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