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The Amarok 09-23-2010 02:54 PM

Should I cut from 245 to 205?
 
I have been pondering this question for awile now.
Im about 6 foot even and my style of striking is base around TKD kicks and counters. My grappling base is greco-roman with a little folkstyle. All in all my main style is TKD. I been training on giving and taking leg kicks and since my legs are rather huge, is was it much of an issues in the first place. Many people say im fast for my size. Cardio is top notch and my power is up there (not Brock power, more of Cain's if not higher)
So i need some advice as to what weight i fight at?
HW or LHW?

xbrokenshieldx 09-23-2010 03:09 PM

Difficult to say from the description you gave. And ultimately it may depend on your career goals. Are you a cut 245? Or do you have some beef to spare? Cutting 40 pounds isn't easy and doing it in a healthy manner would require you to lose a solid 20 of those pounds naturally, prior to "cutting weight". If you are a solid 245, cutting that weight might actually be very difficult and could actually be more detrimental to your fighting career as you would be losing a significant amount of muscle.

If you plan on making a "career" out of fighting cutting that weight is an option as long as you are able to do it in a healthy way. If you are doing it as more of a hobby then I am not sure cutting all that weight is worth it.

Also, how old are you?

E Lit Er Ate 09-23-2010 03:13 PM

that choice is up to you, you know your body better than we do.

if u arent fat, it would be a very tough cut. you arent tall for a HW but neither are guys like Cain Velasquez or Fedor.

Speed is what makes guys great at HW. Almost every 240 pounder on earth that is in good shape, has good or great power, its just a matter of using it properly.

The Amarok 09-23-2010 03:15 PM

1. Yea im making a career
2. Little meaty lol
3. 19

xbrokenshieldx 09-23-2010 03:19 PM

You are certainly young enough where a change in your diet and exercise routines can have a significant impact on your body size if you are, as you said, "a little meaty". It might be worth it for your overall health as well to just give that a go and see where it takes you. Increase your cardio and weight training and see if you become heavier and more solid, or if you become more lean. Ultimately everyone's body reacts differently to these things. If you do change these things up and you lose a solid 15-20 pounds I think it is VERY reasonable for you to cut to 205.

But, as said above, your speed at HW may be a big advantage. I think the best thing for you to do is get in with a good gym, train and eat right and see where your body takes you before you make any decisions.

The Amarok 09-23-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xbrokenshieldx (Post 1271438)
You are certainly young enough where a change in your diet and exercise routines can have a significant impact on your body size if you are, as you said, "a little meaty". It might be worth it for your overall health as well to just give that a go and see where it takes you. Increase your cardio and weight training and see if you become heavier and more solid, or if you become more lean. Ultimately everyone's body reacts differently to these things. If you do change these things up and you lose a solid 15-20 pounds I think it is VERY reasonable for you to cut to 205.

But, as said above, your speed at HW may be a big advantage. I think the best thing for you to do is get in with a good gym, train and eat right and see where your body takes you before you make any decisions.

Thx bro, Kudos

Toxic 09-23-2010 08:16 PM

6 foot even you need to drop IMO. You end up with Jeff Monson syndrome where tall strikers will use there length and jab all night long. IMO if your not at least 6'2" and are still young you shouldn't be at HW.

The Amarok 09-23-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 1271583)
6 foot even you need to drop IMO. You end up with Jeff Monson syndrome where tall strikers will use there length and jab all night long. IMO if your not at least 6'2" and are still young you shouldn't be at HW.

Isnt Fedor 6"0?

Toxic 09-23-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Amarok (Post 1271605)
Isnt Fedor 6"0?

Yeah but he is one of the only ones that small who have been successful, but you also need to take into consideration that the HW division has come along way and the average HW is getting substantially bigger than they were say 5 years ago and we are also seeing not only bigger guys but more athletic and more skilled.

The Amarok 09-23-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 1271608)
Yeah but he is one of the only ones that small who have been successful, but you also need to take into consideration that the HW division has come along way and the average HW is getting substantially bigger than they were say 5 years ago and we are also seeing not only bigger guys but more athletic and more skilled.

Yea. I was hoping to take average of all the "lumbering giants" in the HW division with my speed but idk. I mean you would think guys that big would lose alot of speed(Mir) and cardio(Carwin), but I feel like everyone is putting too much emphasis on power(Brock). But for health reasons, I dont want to be as big as those guys because of what i just stated.


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