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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-29-2010, 02:19 PM Thread Starter
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The 1st Round Gas Syndrome

This list is composed of MMA fighter that have the worst cardio (mainly due to muscle mass) and hopefully they will soon realize that big muscles are more of hassle then they thought.
Melvin Manhoef
Shane Carwin
Ryan Bader
Brett Rogers
Sokoudjou
Houstan Alexander
Bobby Lashley
Mark Coleman
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Brett Rogers - Rd 1 - he broke Fedor's nose with a jab, dodged and weaved all his loopers, laid some heavy GnP on him, shrugged off all sub attempts as he was GnPing Fedor -

2nd round he came out, didn't throw anything, just kept his hands up, and Got KTFO with one shot. AND IT IS ALLLLLL OVER.
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This is the UFC forum... But since Melvin Manhoef if brought up I would say Sokoudjou, Alexander Houston. Some wrestlers have enormous muscles and still have great cardio, Matt Hughes for instance.
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Bobby Lashley


Gassed badly in his last fight

E: And Mark Coleman

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This is the UFC forum... But since Melvin Manhoef if brought up I would say Sokoudjou, Alexander Houston. Some wrestlers have enormous muscles and still have great cardio, Matt Hughes for instance.
I wouldn't say Hughes has enormous muscles. He is extremely strong, but isn't bulky to point of looking out of porportioned. He has lean athletic muscle rather than the bulky body builder muscles that guys like Lashley and Carwin.

There's only so much bulk you can put on a person's frame before it starts to slow you down and cause cardio issues.

A guy like lesnar is blessed to have a large enough frame where even at 265+ he can maintain relatively lean body. Bobby Lashley on the other hand is a few inches shorter with a much smaller frame. He wrestled at 168lbs in college and now fights at around 250lbs in Strikeforce. Lashley should ideally be walking around at around 200lbs and cutting to MW.

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Sokoudjou does not gas. He mentally quits... Difference is he can do better but has some mental blocks. Seems like some anxiety problems, which are real as physical but seems more like his mind gases rather than his body.
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watched overeem gas time and time again, just he finishes fights quicker now.
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Yes, I guess enormous was not the right word. But my point was that college wrestlers, like gymnestics athletes can have really big muscles and yet have good cardio. Their basic muscle growt doesn`t come from weight training but from hours of repetetive muscle work
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Sokoudjou does not gas. He mentally quits... Difference is he can do better but has some mental blocks. Seems like some anxiety problems, which are real as physical but seems more like his mind gases rather than his body.
I think he does gas. He tries these flashy jump kicks and puts everything he got in those highly energy stealing techniques in the first round. I think it is a combination of lack of heart and that his muscles doesn`t seem to tolerate high levels of lactic acid over time.
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For me Sokoudjou is the clear winner.
He gasses phisicaly and quits mentally!
If an MMA fight would last 5 minutes he would be a contender.
Also - Lashley - too much muscle mass.

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