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Overeem has a BJJ black belt?
Who doesnt these days?

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Why would he squash him? Fedors 1 loss was by a imo lucky sub. Fedor does great against strikers.
...Well said. The pure truth is that Fedor has been eating every type of fighter for breakfast his whole career. The best strikers like Cro-Cop in his prime. Big Nog twice in his prime. Thinking about the Werdum/Fedor fight, it reminds me of the 1st Lesnar/Mir fight. Brock handed Frank that kneebar. Fedor made a mistake getting caught by trying to finish Werdum. Like one member had said Fedor would beat Werdum 9 out of 10 itmes. When Fedor returns and picks up where he left off dropping jaws, I'll do my best not to gloat...
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This is all such a crock. Truth is, Fedor is square in the middle of the pack among the HW's. Has nothing to do with his age, or slowing down, or anything like that. He's just been overtaken by a division that is improving rapidly. Someone will retort, "but he only has one loss!!!!" Considering he's been ducking the best competition for about 5 years, and still managed to lose to a UFC reject, (and almost lose to a tire salesman) puts it in better perspective. Win loss ratios don't man squat if you're not fighting the best.

Fedor and his management know that Overeem is closer to the front of the pack and very likely to beat him, or worse, embarrass him. They could have fought him if they wanted to. I wouldn't doubt it if this is all a game on their part to duck while appearing not to.

Frankly, I'd rather see Overeem and Werdum in the UFC than Fedor. I don't think Fedor has any desire to take on the young lions there. He going to look for one easy win and then retire - in shame.
Again with the "UFC reject" bullshit. He was cut because he wasn't marketable you dumb shit.Im getting a little agrravated with this nonsense. Wanderlei is only 2 and 3 for **** sake, should he be cut too? Hell No. Why? Cuz he is martketable cuz people know who he is.A 50% paycut was total bullshit after his JDS fight but the UFC used as a stepping stone and Werdum basically said FU. Todd Duffe got cut not because he got ko'ed, but he was running his month on the UFC not paying or something like that, and he was 6-1.Is he a "reject"? Nick Diaz went 4-4 in his UFC run and didnt get cut cuz that. He got cut cuz he couldnt stay outta trouble.
Seriously, look shit up before you start throwing "reject" around. Damn.

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Again with the "UFC reject" bullshit. He was cut because he wasn't marketable you dumb shit.
Typical emotional Fedor fan. What you can say to guys like this?


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...Well said. The pure truth is that Fedor has been eating every type of fighter for breakfast his whole career....
Uh, not quite, because his whole career goes right up to the present. And the Fedor of the recent days (actually the last few years) has been avoiding certain types of fighters—top fighters.

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Uh, not quite, because his whole career goes right up to the present. And the Fedor of the recent days (actually the last few years) has been avoiding certain types of fighters—top fighters.
That is true to a point. Although, ever since Pride died out, Fedor's been bouncing around through organizations, with M1 more concerned over the paycheck than continuing his legacy. Noone knows if this was Fedors decision, or his management.

I still hold Fedor as one of, if not the baddest man out there. He still has a chance to redeem himself to the fans, he's only 34. He needs to lose some of the pudge again, and get the Reem fight lined up and go from there.

btw, how can you not like this guy? lol
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i just dont get all the ppl here dissing Fedor for not fighting top guys.

and at the same time, lauding Overeem??

what top HWs has Overeem been fighting in the last few years??


oh we count K1??


Why dont we count Sambo for Fedor then??


i mean if we are going to count other sports, why dont we count Hershal Walkers NFL accomplishments as MMA accomplishments.
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Typical emotional Fedor fan. What you can say to guys like this?




Uh, not quite, because his whole career goes right up to the present. And the Fedor of the recent days (actually the last few years) has been avoiding certain types of fighters—top fighters.
Honestly its just disrespectful to call Werdum a "UFC reject". That clearly isnt the case as he would tool a lot of the HW roster currently in the UFC.

It aggravates me too when i see childish comments like that. You know, stylistically a guy like Werdum the "UFC reject" is a bad match up for the UFC champion Brock Lesnar.
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That is true to a point. Although, ever since Pride died out, Fedor's been bouncing around through organizations, with M1 more concerned over the paycheck than continuing his legacy. Noone knows if this was Fedors decision, or his management.

I still hold Fedor as one of, if not the baddest man out there. He still has a chance to redeem himself to the fans, he's only 34. He needs to lose some of the pudge again, and get the Reem fight lined up and go from there.

btw, how can you not like this guy? lol
He's not a jerk like Mayweather (another ducker), but please understand, M1=Fedor and Fedor=M1. Instead of going down with dignity like other great champions, he has decided to protect his record. Frankly, I would have respected him a lot more had he joined the UFC and taken a couple losses to the new lions. Instead he opted to fight UFC rejects to protect his record, and then actually got beat by oneóbadly. He's not the best HW today, and hasn't been for a few years. He was the best HW at one time, over a very weak HW division. He now has the legacy of a ducker. And blaming M1 just doesn't fly.
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We all know Overeem wants this fight Fedor doesn't because odds are, he'll get the hell beat out of him and completely drop out of the P-4-P rankings - what would that do for M-1 Global image and their tournaments.

What is M-1 Global - "The Official Site of Fedor Emilianeko" it says it right one their website.

People make it seem like Fedor is being forced to not take this fight, like he's some puppet that can't speak for himself. He can do what he wants. He's really just scared, it's pathetic.

Overeem would have to go on mass MMA media campaign challenging Fedor, to rake the fight, for the Strikeforce belt. Or maybe he can 'apply' for M-1 Global and challenge their 7-4 Russian HW champion "Maxim Grishin," beat the hell out of in Moscow, St. Petersberg..wherever.
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