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Old 10-11-2010, 12:34 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Nick diaz ain't no bitch.
Yah he only threw a water bottle at Mayhems face for no reason and hid behind security when Mayhem challenged him to a fight right then and there(before post fight press conference)

ya Diaz "aint no bitch"
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:26 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Mayhem (who wasn't even fighting that night) just "happened" to be walking down the same hallway as Diaz when he was heading to the post-fight conference. What a "coincidence"

Mayhem is no angel and his badgering of other fighters, immediately after their matches, lost him a fan.

Go after Jacare and the MW belt, already.
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I gave it Rounds 2,4 and 5 to Noons.
It was a close fight, so I can see that Diaz took it.

BTW, could the announce team be any more biased? Silent during Noons runs, practically climaxing during Diaz runs.
That was really pissing me off. I never really noticed how much I enjoyed Rogan and Goldberg until I had to listen to Quiet McSilency, and Screaming F-ing Luncatic McDouche. Also, I thought the commentary and screaming fans was far too loud compared to the in cage audio.

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Because he's not afraid to take 2 just to give 1 is a thug mentality? Nah, he knows hes has a strong chin. And I don't see too many UFC WWs knocking him out in a striking match.
Chuck Liddell once thought as you do. We all saw how that worked out in the end...sadly... Except he had 10X Diaz's KO power, he only NEEDED one. Diaz needs forty seven thousand to get a UD.

Also, I forgo to quote, sorry, but the bit about the reality being he'd beat most UFC WWs and be a top fiver is kinda laughable. He's not even close to a top fiver.

GSP
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Hardy
Kampmann
MacDonald
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Is a little more realistic IMO.
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Chuck Liddell once thought as you do. We all saw how that worked out in the end...sadly... Except he had 10X Diaz's KO power, he only NEEDED one. Diaz needs forty seven thousand to get a UD.
Chuck liddell is a LHW so no shit sherlock and chuck also only ever had one form of offence and thats striking.

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Also, I forgo to quote, sorry, but the bit about the reality being he'd beat most UFC WWs and be a top fiver is kinda laughable. He's not even close to a top fiver.
he is very close to being a top fiver.
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Diaz can beat all except the top 4 on that list, and the top 4 would still be very competitive.
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he is very close to being a top fiver.
He's actually a very skilled wrestler, he's stated plenty of times in interviews he'd rather stand than grapple though. Look at how easily he took down Rich Franklin and Wanderlei Silva, or how easily he sprawled or scrambled other's takedowns. He made it look easy.

I disagree, but I can see where the belief can come from. He's done alright against B level competition that can't compete at the highest level and IMO lost to Noons, but hey you know what evs!
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Well if UFC fanboys wanna complain about him not fighting in their favorite org than **** the UFC, **** Dana White, **** GSP, **** Jon Ficth and **** Josh Koshcheck.
If people wanna call Diaz a "bum" cuz he is not a UFC fighter, than those arent the type of fans he needs. People that would say he is garbage once he loses a fight arent true MMA fans. I watch the UFC for the fighters. I watch Bellator for the fighters. I watch Strikeforce/DREAM/WVR for the damn fighters.
A simple way to fix this is for Dana to stop being a selfish ass and get rid of the "exclusive" contracts.
Rival said it earlier that Diaz left the UFC for those same reason.
One day when the Orgs outside the UFC start making bigger waves (just like PRIDE did), maybe Dana will change his mind.
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Diaz is defintly a top five fighter. He has had more impressive wins recently than most of the UFC welterweights.
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Chuck Liddell once thought as you do. We all saw how that worked out in the end...sadly... Except he had 10X Diaz's KO power, he only NEEDED one. Diaz needs forty seven thousand to get a UD.

Also, I forgo to quote, sorry, but the bit about the reality being he'd beat most UFC WWs and be a top fiver is kinda laughable. He's not even close to a top fiver.

GSP
Koscheck
Shields
Fitch
Condit
Hardy
Kampmann
MacDonald
Diaz
Is a little more realistic IMO.
Wow, Hardy, Kampmann, MacDonald, Condit..

Who in gods name has Rory Macdonald defeated?

Dan Hardy... the guy who's supposed to be a marksman with his hands has had 5 UFC fights and only won 1 by knockout. He's won 3 by decision and lost 1. Hardy is one of the most gassed up overrated fighters in the WW rankings.

He's beaten who? Marcus Davis? Mike Swick? Gimme a break and I won't be surprised to see Carlos bust his hype bubble.

Martain Kampmann would get outboxed against Diaz plain and simple. Diaz has the reach and his output would fluster and eventually stop Kampmann. Martains little 1-2 kick would be horribly inaffective against a striker of Nick Diaz calibur.

Nick won't fight Jake.

Now Carlos Condit? That's a different story, I think Condit is one of the dark horses in the WW division. He can crack the top 5. He's very skilled and a fight with Nick and Carlos would be fire works.

Bottem line... Nick Diaz would still be a top 5er in the UFCs WW division. Nick goes to war every time he fights, he leaves it all in the cage, and he's very well rounded. He's proven himself alot more than half the guys you named.
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Wow, Hardy, Kampmann, MacDonald, Condit..

Who in gods name has Rory Macdonald defeated?

Dan Hardy... the guy who's supposed to be a marksman with his hands has had 5 UFC fights and only won 1 by knockout. He's won 3 by decision and lost 1. Hardy is one of the most gassed up overrated fighters in the WW rankings.

He's beaten who? Marcus Davis? Mike Swick? Gimme a break and I won't be surprised to see Carlos bust his hype bubble.

Martain Kampmann would get outboxed against Diaz plain and simple. Diaz has the reach and his output would fluster and eventually stop Kampmann. Martains little 1-2 kick would be horribly inaffective against a striker of Nick Diaz calibur.

Nick won't fight Jake.

Now Carlos Condit? That's a different story, I think Condit is one of the dark horses in the WW division. He can crack the top 5. He's very skilled and a fight with Nick and Carlos would be fire works.

Bottem line... Nick Diaz would still be a top 5er in the UFCs WW division. He's proven himself alot more than half the guys you named.
MacDonald IMO has all the natural skills to beat Diaz. Its just a matter of application.

As far as I have seen from watching both of the Diaz brothers, their style of boxing rely's very heavily on the ranging jab. When you take away the usual reach advantage they have against their opponent's. I.e. Dan Hardy (74in) vs Diaz (74in) a lot of the usual advantage goes away. And in my opinion, Hardy is a good combination of pressure fighter and technical fighter. (Also, he has a Shaolin Kung Fu background which gives him an intangible leg up for me!)

Kampmann has very technical with his striking, and has the grappling skills to keep Diaz standing. I think a skilled technical kickboxer would give Diaz a lot of trouble that someone like Noons, who's style is almost exclusively boxing w/ leg kicks doesn't have.

Whether they'd fight or not has absolutely nothing to do with their rankings. If they did, Shields would secure the takedown and dominate with far superior wrestling.

I totally agree with Condit being a dark horse. He's so underrated it blows my mind (which is why he's higher up on my list than Hardy). I have him beating Hardy, and continue to kick myself for only putting 20K on him to win.

Actual bottom line: Diaz being even close to top 5 is very debateable, and something of a stretch.
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