Nick Diaz wants GSP - Page 8 - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #71 of 77 (permalink) Old 11-01-2010, 02:29 AM
Featherweight
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,099
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by kantowrestler View Post
Yeah, not sure why he fought who he did when he did but he did. However, holding your own against a professional boxer when you aren't one gives him some credit. Though Noons obviously has more experience then Diaz at boxing Diaz was clearly the better overall fighter in their last fight!
The thing is, most professional boxers are terrible.

A good amateur fighter, then going professional, will 99% of the time rip through the vast majority of professional fighters as they are far better schooled in technique etc and have devoted many more years to it. A lot of professional boxers are garbage collector types who get in, have a biff and get a few hundred bucks for the efforts whilst training a few nights per week in between their beer drinking sessions. So in that respect, they are not actually 'professionals' as such as they actually work a full-time profession and boxing is more just a bit of fun and a little extra money on the side.

Beat a good contender, and you have done well. Otherwise, it doesn't tend to mean a lot. I know, boxing is my niche, I've trained with some of the worlds best Professional fighters, fought against and know a lot of former Olympic fighters and seen them in the professional ranks afterwards, along with other amateur guys I knew who are now world ranked and beat to a pulp most of these tomatoe cans I am talking about. Even Noons, he is a nobody. Frankie Edgar is the most skilled 'boxer' in MMA IMO, but most don't appreciate the subtleties and nuances a good boxer will learn.

Last edited by Fine Wine; 11-01-2010 at 02:33 AM.
Fine Wine is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #72 of 77 (permalink) Old 11-01-2010, 02:54 AM
The Title Guy
 
kantowrestler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orange, California
Posts: 12,367
                     
So in other words you are saying that most professional boxers are really semi-professional athletes?

The Emoticon Guy
kantowrestler is offline  
post #73 of 77 (permalink) Old 11-01-2010, 03:07 AM
Featherweight
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,099
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by kantowrestler View Post
So in other words you are saying that most professional boxers are really semi-professional athletes?
Basically, yes.
Fine Wine is offline  
post #74 of 77 (permalink) Old 11-01-2010, 03:39 AM
The Title Guy
 
kantowrestler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orange, California
Posts: 12,367
                     
Isn't it the same with most "professional" MMA fighters?

The Emoticon Guy
kantowrestler is offline  
post #75 of 77 (permalink) Old 11-01-2010, 03:43 AM
Featherweight
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,099
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by kantowrestler View Post
Isn't it the same with most "professional" MMA fighters?
Yes, but let's not go in circles. We are talking about Diaz vs a tomatoe can.

It's like putting in some drunkard, beer drinking red neck who fukcs around in the gym against say Arthur Abraham for example and then saying, Abraham has a win at MMA, he must be decent at it. Doesn't proove a thing.
Fine Wine is offline  
post #76 of 77 (permalink) Old 11-01-2010, 07:10 PM
Kneel Before Christ!
 
Roflcopter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 8,024
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyCooper View Post
Have you seen Diaz pathetic kicks?? He can't even throw a kick right.. and that after his long and successful career. He should focus on actual MMA striking instead of Boxing.

GSP would destroy him in a standup war, as would Alves, Daley and so on..
This.

Its pathetic how overrated guys get from beating up on low level fighters.

He was schooled on the feet by a journeyman in Mike Aina, then a fight later was schooled by KJ and got stopped.

Since then his awesome striking has been on display against Frank Shamrock, a submission grappler 10 years past his best, Zaromskis an overrated glass cannon who just got smoked in more devastating fashion by Cyborg(nor did Cyborg, whos mediocre himself get rocked and knocked down like Nick did), and then he eeked by a bloated KJ Noons who's probably, due to various injuries not even at his best.


Oh yeah, he'd kill Daley alright. Nevermind that Daley is a world class striker who I don't even recall ever being rocked in his career, let alone beat up like Diaz. Nevermind that, because Nick is a SF champion and we have to be cool and non-conformist and hype up lesser fighters despite their accomplishments being absolutely MEAGRE.

GSP? Call me back when Diaz faces a legitimate WW threat in his OWN organization.

Roflcopter is offline  
post #77 of 77 (permalink) Old 11-01-2010, 11:49 PM
It's a league game, Smokey
 
Ape City's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Planet of the Apes
Posts: 7,995
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roflcopter View Post
This.

Its pathetic how overrated guys get from beating up on low level fighters.

He was schooled on the feet by a journeyman in Mike Aina, then a fight later was schooled by KJ and got stopped.

Since then his awesome striking has been on display against Frank Shamrock, a submission grappler 10 years past his best, Zaromskis an overrated glass cannon who just got smoked in more devastating fashion by Cyborg(nor did Cyborg, whos mediocre himself get rocked and knocked down like Nick did), and then he eeked by a bloated KJ Noons who's probably, due to various injuries not even at his best.


Oh yeah, he'd kill Daley alright. Nevermind that Daley is a world class striker who I don't even recall ever being rocked in his career, let alone beat up like Diaz. Nevermind that, because Nick is a SF champion and we have to be cool and non-conformist and hype up lesser fighters despite their accomplishments being absolutely MEAGRE.

GSP? Call me back when Diaz faces a legitimate WW threat in his OWN organization.


mad props: Toxic
Ape City is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome