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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-31-2007, 01:56 AM Thread Starter
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America's Best?

Now, first off I want to say I think Hendo is a good fighter, a classy fighter, a legit tough guy and I respect him. But, since winning the Welterweight title, has he defended it? Now, you could argue that Pride haven't made title fights but wouldn't you think he would ask for them? And, now he has a shot at the Middleweight belt? And, has earned the nickname "America's Best"? What did he do exactly to get them? I think he should defend his belt and if he can do that, then he can be called America's Best and get title shots in other weight divisions.
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Now, first off I want to say I think Hendo is a good fighter, a classy fighter, a legit tough guy and I respect him. But, since winning the Welterweight title, has he defended it? Now, you could argue that Pride haven't made title fights but wouldn't you think he would ask for them? And, now he has a shot at the Middleweight belt? And, has earned the nickname "America's Best"? What did he do exactly to get them? I think he should defend his belt and if he can do that, then he can be called America's Best and get title shots in other weight divisions.
You know, I was baffled when they announced the fight - it made no sense to me that he gets a title shot outside of his weight, while not defending his own title since the WW division was formed. Yeah, you can argue DSE is trying to intrigue the American fans with the American vs 'Foreigner' BS, but I dont buy it...Why would I, I am the hardcore MMA fan?? And so are you my friend.

The sad thing is that DSE in not trying to impress someone like you or myself - they already have our loyalty - they are trying to earn a whole new base of fans, American or not. It's a damn business, and it all revolves around the almight dollar.
America's best? Hell no! But the sound of it makes you wanna watch him fight if you are an American and you dont know who this guy is...Pride is trying to appeal to the american pride, and if you ask me the 'honorary' nickname replacement is nothing short of a business strategy, and 'Dangerous' Dan 'Hollywood' Henderon, or whatever you wanna call him is fully aware of this. He wants to have more shows is Vegas because he wants to fight in his home country in front of his own fans.

I guess it s a win for the average MMA fan, a win for Hendo and an attempt to financial uprise for DSE. Wand has nothing to lose (I get the feeling the fight might be set up so that Wand wins a tough, highly entartaining bout), the only losers in this situation are the Hardcore Pride fans....but then again are we? - We're gonna get a hell of a show!

Alright...I m done ranting now.

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You know, I was baffled when they announced the fight - it made no sense to me that he gets a title shot outside of his weight, while not defending his own title since the WW division was formed. Yeah, you can argue DSE is trying to intrigue the American fans with the American vs 'Foreigner' BS, but I dont buy it...Why would I, I am the hardcore MMA fan?? And so are you my friend.

The sad thing is that DSE in not trying to impress someone like you or myself - they already have our loyalty - they are trying to earn a whole new base of fans, American or not. It's a damn business, and it all revolves around the almight dollar.
America's best? Hell no! But the sound of it makes you wanna watch him fight if you are an American and you dont know who this guy is...Pride is trying to appeal to the american pride, and if you ask me the 'honorary' nickname replacement is nothing short of a business strategy, and 'Dangerous' Dan 'Hollywood' Henderon, or whatever you wanna call him is fully aware of this. He wants to have more shows is Vegas because he wants to fight in his home country in front of his own fans.

I guess it s a win for the average MMA fan, a win for Hendo and an attempt to financial uprise for DSE. Wand has nothing to lose (I get the feeling the fight might be set up so that Wand wins a tough, highly entartaining bout), the only losers in this situation are the Hardcore Pride fans....but then again are we? - We're gonna get a hell of a show!

Alright...I m done ranting now.
Nice Post and Well Said. Pride needs to compete in America or else they could be in trouble someday. They gotta put out big name fights that will sell PPVs and fill the arenas.

This is just one of there ways of trying to do that.
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After getting over the disappointment of Wandy not fighting Rogerio and Hendo not defending his belt, I ... ... Ok, so I'm not over it, but it's not going to stop me from enjoying what should be a great fight and cheering my ass off for "Hollywood". While Wanderlei is the favorite going in, you better believe that Dan has a very real chance at winning.

As far as the "America's Best" moniker... I'll just keep calling him "Hollywood" Dan Henderson and we can pretend this "America's Best' thing never happened...


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Wow, say Hendo beats Wandy. They would sell it everywhere. "AMERICA's BEST"..!!!
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Since the fight will be held on American soil, "America's Best" sounds more appealing to Americans than Dan "Hollywood" Henderson
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Hmm...

Other American fighters that are better than Henderson at 185...

Matt Lindland and, well, that's pretty much it. And lets face it, the moniker : "America's Second Best" isn't really very catchy.

Hendo hasn't defended his title, and I think PRIDE knows that he has alot of competition, but alot of PRIDE fans (myself included) have wanted to see this rematch since the end of the first fight.

Maybe after this we'll get to see Henderson/Filho, Henderson/Kang or Henderson/Misaki. (or Henderson/A. Silva, that would be one-sided)

Anyway, I want to see Hendo defend his title, but I'm still happy that they made this fight happen. It's going to be a war.



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I'm still happy that they made this fight happen. It's going to be a war.
For sure, I couldn't think of a better match-up. The only match that sounds as good is Kang vs. Hendo
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Hmm...

Other American fighters that are better than Henderson at 185...

Matt Lindland and, well, that's pretty much it. And lets face it, the moniker : "America's Second Best" isn't really very catchy.
IMO Matt Linland is overrated and doesnt deserve to be considered #1 he hasnt fought any great competiton and definatley not near the level of the guys over at pride the only thing he has done recently that impressed me was his close decision loss to rampage but as we all know rampage isnt quite the same rampage we used to know also IMO misaki paulo filho Hendo and kang would have a high chance of beating him

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IMO Matt Linland is overrated and doesnt deserve to be considered #1 he hasnt fought any great competiton and definatley not near the level of the guys over at pride the only thing he has done recently that impressed me was his close decision loss to rampage but as we all know rampage isnt quite the same rampage we used to know also IMO misaki paulo filho Hendo and kang would have a high chance of beating him
Yeah I agree with u azn, Linland wasn't the best but he was good. At one point that is, he's washed up now compared to what he used to be
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