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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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10-27-2010, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by joshua7789
When it comes to wrestling, this dude is in a different universe then Lesnar. The difference between great wrestlers in college and great wrestlers in international competitions is huge. Go watch some of Ben Askrens fights, that guys takedowns cant be stopped.
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Weren't both Sonnen and Henderson Olympic wrestlers? Still probably not on this guys level though.......? |
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10-27-2010, 11:46 PM
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#22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by kantowrestler
Yeah, this dude should do pretty good. The question though is whether he's going to go right into MMA or keep wrestling?  |
Yeh, that's the prob with a lot of grapplers also, they have a couple MMA fights, but never undertake a career in it. |
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10-27-2010, 11:58 PM
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he has 4 golds at the world titles and 1 silver in 2006 at 120kg, which is about 265 pounds, olympic gold medallist!! at beijing and he is cuban and will train with Lombard and Alves, i think this guy already will at least be a top contender lets just hope he's in the ufc before strikeforce tries to ruin him.
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10-28-2010, 12:57 AM
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I thought UFC rejects and guys who like their freedom go to Strikeforce. Was I wrong?
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10-28-2010, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kantowrestler
I thought UFC rejects and guys who like their freedom go to Strikeforce. Was I wrong? |
There is "no freedom" in UFC that's for sure |
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10-28-2010, 04:11 AM
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Did Velasquez not prove that its not all about wrestling though?
He personifies the term "its not thi size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog"
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10-28-2010, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MMA-Daz
Did Velasquez not prove that its not all about wrestling though?
He personifies the term "its not thi size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog"
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welcome to the forum
as said earlier college wrestling is light years behind international wrestling the size is just a bonus, also he will be working with lombard,alves and america top team who are notorious for knockouts and excellent striking
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10-28-2010, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MMA-Daz
Did Velasquez not prove that its not all about wrestling though?
He personifies the term "its not thi size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog"
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Cain is a bit different as he is not wrestler and boxer like most Heavyweights. He is a wrestler and kickboxer. I think that makes the difference |
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10-28-2010, 05:18 AM
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Cain Velasquez has proven to everyone that technique beats raw power 9 times out of 10. Even Brock Lesnar proved that to some degree when he beat Shane Carwin.
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10-28-2010, 07:14 AM
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Scary looking dude, and, ulike other big men, he has some nice credentials: world champion, olympic champion, training boxing in Cuba, where boxing is like a national sport... then going to ATT.
Two things need to happen for him:
- start a rigurous conditioning training, adapted to MMA
- STRIKING, STRIKING, STRIKING...ne needs to learn how to box, and more important, like Lesnar demonstrated us...he needs to learn how to take a punch and how to react when getting hit.
If he succeds is this, he should do very well imo.
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