I think Pride is more comparable with UFC then with Strikeforce. Actually Pride had better fight cards then UFC and i mean nowadays UFC cus back when Pride was alive UFC was irrelevant compared to Pride! Beside, most of dominant fighters in UFC came from Pride. As for Strikeforce since it's Strikeforce that this thread is about, I say no, strikeforce will never be on Pride's level! They can't even put reasonable fights together (ex: fedor beats rogers, rogers gets title shot...or fedor loses to werdum and wants title shot, and he would get it if overeem wasn't in for k-1 fights this year!)
so youre saying strikeforce today is comparable with ufc of back then? like i said ufc currently is 3-4 times bigger then it was back then. who they had? @HW sylvia and arlovski @lhw Liddell, Couture and Tito and im not even sure they had a 155 division that only had Sherk and Penn.
No SF has Fedor(2010) Ubereem (V2.0), Werdum, Antonio Silva and Barnett (2010).
Pride had Fedor,CroCop, Nog and Barnett in there primes, Pride also had guys like Don Frye, Gary Goodridge, Mark Coleman, Gilbert Yvel, Heath Herring (who was a legit top 5 HW when he was in Pride) Semmy Schilt, Aleks E,Yoshida, Kharitonov, Mark Hunt, etc,
You forgot Mezger, Sakuraba,Vernon White. Vitor Belfort, Hendo,Rampage, Jeremy Horn, Kevin Randleman,Minowman, etc,
No, I am gonna try to explain this nicely because I suspect your rather new to the sport or have a limited knowledge of the historical significance or historical accomplishments of many of the Pride era fighters. You cannot judge a company so long past based on the current success or failure of the fighters that once called it home. Many have retired, some were getting on then and many others just are not at there peak anymore and cannot compete at the same level. SF has a decent HW division but they do not even remotely rival the depth that Pride had. In fact short of possibly the current UFC roster no organization in history has been able to compete with that depth. With all due respect you couldn't be more wrong.
now i know Cro Cop and Big Nog were at their prime and way better fighters then they are today, but they are in ufc now so i dont compare them to their current state. i compare cro cop and big nog to ubereem and werdum, and i think fedor and barnett only deteriorated slightly. also Pride didnt have a steroid testing requirement implanted, im not going to point any fingers, but the likelihood of fighters taking steroids increases when there is no testing involved (for example when did barnett win a big fight when there was steroid testing implented, and he passed the test?).
regarding the fighters you listed-Frye- entertaining pioneer but not more. goodridge- overrated arm wrestler coleman- great as a pioneer but not as mma evolved yvel-horrible in pride herring- definetly not top 5 schilt hunt kharitonov- 1d strikers with no achievements in mma yoshida- couldnt beat royce gracie dana white-only good in pancrase sakuraba- pioneer and thats it rampage-only became good in ufc horn randleman and minowaman- come on!
pride probably had more depth, but who cares about that when its fighters that are on ultimate fighter reject levels? lots of fighters crossed over from pro wrestling and couldnt fight, or were just freakshows (giant silva for example). strikeforce seems to try and stay away from freakshows (they rejected the possibility of signing kimbo)