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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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11-02-2010, 12:31 PM
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Bantamweight
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is Strikeforce as great as PRIDE was?
edit: is strikeforce as great as pride was?
They are very comparable. The big difference is that the ufc is now 3-4 times bigger then it was so the ratio is greater.
Last edited by UFC86 : 01-21-2013 at 09:40 AM.
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11-02-2010, 12:32 PM
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The Fun Police
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is Strikeforce as great as PRIDE was?
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No. [/end thread]
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11-02-2010, 02:29 PM
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No. [/end thread]
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Speaking the truth!
Dream had something magical...
SF doesn't, and it won't either...
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11-02-2010, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by limba
Speaking the truth!
Dream had something magical...
SF doesn't, and it won't either...
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magical? whats that the only difference is see is that theyre japanese.
and strikeforce did something pride couldnt do, have somebody beat fedor. (im fedor fan btw)
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11-02-2010, 02:57 PM
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Dr. Krav...nose, throat, and groin.
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Originally Posted by UFC86
magical? whats that the only difference is see is that theyre japanese.
and strikeforce did something pride couldnt do, have somebody beat fedor. (im fedor fan btw)
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Point #1 Above: You don't seem to looking very closely.
Point #2 Above: WTF does that have to do with anything? They didn't "Have somebody" beat Fedor. Fedor jumped into a stupid position with an insanely talented BJJ expert. If this had happened in Pride, he would have lost then.
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11-02-2010, 03:01 PM
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NO. 1 *BONER*
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11-02-2010, 03:13 PM
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No Pride had Don Frye, the closest thing Strikeforce has to Frye is who... KJ Noons? 
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11-02-2010, 03:37 PM
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They Are Not Even Comparable!
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11-02-2010, 03:42 PM
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I think Pride is more comparable with UFC then with Strikeforce. Actually Pride had better fight cards then UFC and i mean nowadays UFC cus back when Pride was alive UFC was irrelevant compared to Pride! Beside, most of dominant fighters in UFC came from Pride. As for Strikeforce since it's Strikeforce that this thread is about, I say no, strikeforce will never be on Pride's level! They can't even put reasonable fights together (ex: fedor beats rogers, rogers gets title shot...or fedor loses to werdum and wants title shot, and he would get it if overeem wasn't in for k-1 fights this year!)
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11-02-2010, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by UFC86
they are very comparable
@HW SF has Fedor, Ubereem, Werdum, Antonio Silva, Barnett compared to Pride that had Fedor, Cro Cop, Big Nog, Barnett
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No SF has Fedor(2010) Ubereem (V2.0), Werdum, Antonio Silva and Barnett (2010).
Pride had Fedor,CroCop, Nog and Barnett in there primes, Pride also had guys like Don Frye, Gary Goodridge, Mark Coleman, Gilbert Yvel, Heath Herring (who was a legit top 5 HW when he was in Pride) Semmy Schilt, Aleks E,Yoshida, Kharitonov, Mark Hunt, etc,
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@205 SF has Feijao, Mousasi, Lawal, Hendo, Babalu, Roger Gracie compared to Pride's Shogun, Wanderlei, Lil Nog,Arona
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You forgot Mezger, Sakuraba,Vernon White. Vitor Belfort, Hendo,Rampage, Jeremy Horn, Kevin Randleman,Minowman, etc,
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the big difference is that the ufc is now 3-4 times bigger then it was so the ratio is greater.
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No, I am gonna try to explain this nicely because I suspect your rather new to the sport or have a limited knowledge of the historical significance or historical accomplishments of many of the Pride era fighters. You cannot judge a company so long past based on the current success or failure of the fighters that once called it home. Many have retired, some were getting on then and many others just are not at there peak anymore and cannot compete at the same level. SF has a decent HW division but they do not even remotely rival the depth that Pride had. In fact short of possibly the current UFC roster no organization in history has been able to compete with that depth. With all due respect you couldn't be more wrong.
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