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My next fight is on the 18th and I need some advice

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#1 ·
My next fight is Saturday the 18th and it could be interesting. She is experienced (11-5) and is a capoeira fighter with some BJJ skill as well. I haven't had a chance to watch any of her fights yet so I have no idea what to expect. I know very little about capoeira, other than there are a lot of flashy moves. Is there anything specific I should watch for?

I'm going to try to get her on the ground as fast as possible and hopefully end it.
 
#2 ·
In capoiera they use kicks, alot of kicks. SO make sure to watch out for the head kick and then another one right after. Also in capoeira its alot about making it look like a dance. So be careful of spinning moves, be sure to not get thrown off by her spinning.

All that said, capoiera doesnt really work well in the mma because it leaves you open to counters. So watch for the counter punches or just take her down. Just be sure to leave no arms or legs in anywhere so you dont get subbed.

:)
 
#4 ·
Thanks for the tips :thumb02:

In capoiera they use kicks, alot of kicks. SO make sure to watch out for the head kick and then another one right after. Also in capoeira its alot about making it look like a dance. So be careful of spinning moves, be sure to not get thrown off by her spinning.

All that said, capoiera doesnt really work well in the mma because it leaves you open to counters. So watch for the counter punches or just take her down. Just be sure to leave no arms or legs in anywhere so you dont get subbed.
Yeah, I was thinking it doesn't seem like it would be very effective in mma against an experienced fighter. My concern is exactly what you mentioned... That I could get thrown off by some of the moves. I'm watching some videos of capoeira fights right now and its pretty crazy. :confused02:

One of the most skilled MMA fighters in capoeira is Anderson Silva. That being said watch it while the fight is on your feet. When you take it to the ground also watch he BJJ as well!
I've seen a few Anderson Silva fights but I don't remember seeing any capoeira. In fact I don't think I have ever seen it in an mma fight. And hopefully I'll never see it again after this fight. :confused05: I prefer muay thai or bjj fighters, they're more predictable. :happy01:
 
#6 ·
I definitely think you've got the right idea in taking it to the ground, which will confine her to more orthodox tools that you are used to. While I personally don't think that capoeira is a very effective striking art on its own, it's very unorthodox and you have to respct the unknown. While conventional striking tactics would win 9/10 times, you don't want to risk running into some crazy spinning headkick.

(like this one)



As for how to get her to the ground, I would suggest doing so from the clinch. Cut off the ring/cage, KEEP YOUR HANDS HIGH, crash into her, and the take her down. Smothering her from the get-go would probably be the safest route as you probably don't want to be at striking distance for too long, since she might have a really unconventional range with her attacks.

Shooting seems a bit risky too. With opponents who throw a lot of kicks, I'm usually reluctant to shoot unless I set it up well with strikes (though it'd be hard to do so in this case, since you'd be in range for her weird attacks.)I'd just be afraid that I'd accidentally shoot into a shinbone, which Ive had the 'pleasure' of doing more than once. I prefer to catch a kick and drag them down or to smother them and try for a takedown from the clinch.

Either way, keep your hands up at all costs! It's not likely that she'll flash KO you with a body shot, but some wild spin-kick to the dome might be a different story.

Good luck!

EDIT: I'm using the youtube brackets but its still not working. grrrr ;[
 
#9 ·
I would say either use the kicks to get it to the ground (if you haven't already done before then), or just smother her against the cage and clinch up...either way the other guys are bang on the money here.

Good luck babes :D may have my own fight in Feb. hope you have a good one :D
 
#12 ·
Thanks again for all of the advice. My trainer is supposed to get me some vids of her fights this week. :thumbsup:



Thanks! Yeah, that is the plan. :thumb02:

While conventional striking tactics would win 9/10 times, you don't want to risk running into some crazy spinning headkick.

(like this one)

Yeah I saw that on youtube last night. :confused05: I doubt that she would catch me with something like that but its best to avoid the possibility entirely. I'm going to try to clinch up and taken her down. Once its on the ground I know I can submit her.
 
#10 ·
if she is good at capoeira then chances are see is very fast and moves alot on the feet with unorthodox strikes which can be hard to predict, I would recommend closing the distance assuming you feel you have a Mury Thai advantage and try using the clinch, but would defo try to see some of her fights first to see if you can see what she is like from the clinch in case she is strong there also.

Leg kicks can be very non-effective against such a style as capoeira she is likely to have the movement to step back and avoid them and work a counter, I would avoid using them and try to get in range for knees and elbows instead.
 
#11 ·
Yeah, you want to go in with caution and try to measure her. Don't close the distance too quickly cause she may want that to happen so she can use her strikes to take you out. Go in slowly and when you know you can grab ahold of her without paying striking consequences, take her down!:)
 
#16 ·
Pretty much agree with most of what others have said. Few things I would add;

1) Find her kicking range early. Either smother her RIGHT away, or cautiously test her kick range by staying at a good distance, dont let your hands/jabs determine the range. I'd recommend once you find it, sticking right around the outside of it.

2) Practice checking kicks. If you stay at range you might be able to check a kick with her foot(not shin) colliding right into the sharp part of your shin bone. A couple of those can do enough damage at times to slow down the volume of kicks altogether.

3) Close distance quickly into clinches, and carefully pick your shots. As others said, going for single leg/double leg takedowns might not be the best idea, so attempt trips/throws you're comfortable with. A caught kick and trip might be a good way to get top control.

4) Find out what type of fighter she is. If she is pretty cautious and technical, you might want to press her hard relatively early on and smother her with your grappling. If she's wild and reckless with kicks and not very cautious, you may want to do the opposite and play it more careful yourself, letting her wear down a bit the first round or two, and trying for a takedown+submission in the second and third rounds.

5) Fight your game. Despite what any of us said, dont get too out your own fight game. Pick out the things you feel VERY strong with in your mind, and work on exploiting those while trying to hide whatever your weaker of your game may be. There isnt much you can probably improve massively in this short of time, and likely you will do what you normally do when the fight actually takes place, so the biggest thing is just fighting your fight and not fighting hers. If you're that confident in your BJJ, then dont give her much of a chance to use the kicks and flashy moves. Wait for the opportunity, close distance, get on her, and play your BJJ.

Anyway, hope to hear back from you after the fight, and maybe get a video :)
 
#18 ·
Look at your own description of the opponent.
My next fight is Saturday the 18th and it could be interesting. She is experienced (11-5) and is a capoeira fighter with some BJJ skill as well.
Don't assume all you have to do is get her on the ground. She's got some BJJ, and she'll expect you to try and take the fight there. You best option (depending on YOUR skills) may be dirty boxing.
 
#22 ·
3-1 and soon to be 4-1 if everything goes according to plan. :thumb02:

Yeah, what weight are you fighting at?:confused:
127 at the moment.

Pretty much agree with most of what others have said. Few things I would add;

1) Find her kicking range early. Either smother her RIGHT away, or cautiously test her kick range by staying at a good distance, dont let your hands/jabs determine the range. I'd recommend once you find it, sticking right around the outside of it.

2) Practice checking kicks. If you stay at range you might be able to check a kick with her foot(not shin) colliding right into the sharp part of your shin bone. A couple of those can do enough damage at times to slow down the volume of kicks altogether.

3) Close distance quickly into clinches, and carefully pick your shots. As others said, going for single leg/double leg takedowns might not be the best idea, so attempt trips/throws you're comfortable with. A caught kick and trip might be a good way to get top control.

4) Find out what type of fighter she is. If she is pretty cautious and technical, you might want to press her hard relatively early on and smother her with your grappling. If she's wild and reckless with kicks and not very cautious, you may want to do the opposite and play it more careful yourself, letting her wear down a bit the first round or two, and trying for a takedown+submission in the second and third rounds.

5) Fight your game. Despite what any of us said, dont get too out your own fight game. Pick out the things you feel VERY strong with in your mind, and work on exploiting those while trying to hide whatever your weaker of your game may be. There isnt much you can probably improve massively in this short of time, and likely you will do what you normally do when the fight actually takes place, so the biggest thing is just fighting your fight and not fighting hers. If you're that confident in your BJJ, then dont give her much of a chance to use the kicks and flashy moves. Wait for the opportunity, close distance, get on her, and play your BJJ.

Anyway, hope to hear back from you after the fight, and maybe get a video :)
Thanks. Yeah, I got a dvd of one of her fights today so I'm going to check it out in a little bit and see how she fights.

And someone sent me a private message about editing and uploading videos so hopefully I'll figure it out this week. I think it was you but I can't respond to them until I have 50 posts.
 
#21 ·
my view would be to chop the legs down with devastating leg kicks making her not be able to get power and she'll slow down with her movement, keep your distance when you do this, after she starts limping at all either A) trust in your ability to outstrike a limped opponent or B) double leg her damaged legs and finish with some GNP or your bjj.
 
#25 ·
We get our own tag? Is it a fighter tag in general or a female fighter tag? :thumb02: And if its the second one, its not pink is it? :confused01: If someone from my gym came on here and saw something pink in my profile it would tarnish my reputation as a badass. :happy02:
 
#36 · (Edited)
lol You can just go ahead and give me the trophy now, Ares. I'm pretty sure I'm going to win unless I get get KOed by some crazy spinning kick to the head. In which case, I won't be on tonight because I'll be too busy at home repeatedly slamming my head down on my desk for not seeing it coming. :confused05:



Oh sorry, it went pretty well. We both actually came in at the same weight (126) which has never happened to me before. I'm usually lighter than my opponents.

And there was no trash talk. She actually seemed like nice person so its a shame that I'm going to have to kick her ass tonight. :thumb02:

Some tips before your fight happens:

Capoeria (SP?) is a very LENGTHY art, much like TKD, and clinch work will destroy any hopes of it's effectiveness. Wait for one of those "LOL I KEN SPIN HERP" moves, keep out of the way of the strike, keep your guard up as you close the distance and get tight. Use dirty boxing to keep her from gainin her distance. If she breaks from it, cut her angles, keep her back against a wall and stay just out of range until she throws something flashy and loopy, then promptly close that distance again. If you're confident in your ground game, take it there. If not, and her main style of fighting is Capoeria then closing the distance should neutrilize her enough that you can beat her up good standing! Best of luck to you tonight!
"LOL I KEN SPIN HERP" :happy02:

Yeah that is my strategy for the fight. Clinch up, take her down and either submit her or ground and pound. :thumb02:
 
#35 ·
Some tips before your fight happens:

Capoeria (SP?) is a very LENGTHY art, much like TKD, and clinch work will destroy any hopes of it's effectiveness. Wait for one of those "LOL I KEN SPIN HERP" moves, keep out of the way of the strike, keep your guard up as you close the distance and get tight. Use dirty boxing to keep her from gainin her distance. If she breaks from it, cut her angles, keep her back against a wall and stay just out of range until she throws something flashy and loopy, then promptly close that distance again. If you're confident in your ground game, take it there. If not, and her main style of fighting is Capoeria then closing the distance should neutrilize her enough that you can beat her up good standing! Best of luck to you tonight!
 
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