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post #11 of 48 (permalink) Old 12-14-2010, 09:52 PM
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Miller is just as instigative, and at this point let's not forget that he is the one refusing to meet at a reasonable middle of the road catchweight.

I think you're fooling yourself if you think this is about beef for Miller. It's about promoting himself, like everything else he does, and he knows that getting a fight with Nick is pretty much the best he can hope for in SF right now in that regard.
You got it out for Mayhem, lol. That was the most bias article i've seen. They forgot to add the part of dana's comment where he said, "what do you expect....when it's the Diaz brothers."

I really doubt Mayhem is just looking to steal Diaz's shine. He can come to the UFC if he wants, which alone is 10 times more shine than anything to do with Strikeforce.

Not to mention one of them is a star on a MTV show. It's not about fame, it's about beating up someone who jumped you. Shields looked to Mayhem before Mayhem spoke. Don't get me wrong, we all know Mayhem was a goof for doing that, but anyone not named Diaz's camp wouldn't have brought the street mentality in and jump him.

If anything Diaz should take the fight since Miller is the biggest name he'll face in strikeforce.
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post #12 of 48 (permalink) Old 12-14-2010, 10:39 PM
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Personally I think Diaz would beat Miller easily. Mainly because I think Jason is overrated after his survival against Shields. Diaz was definitely in the wrong however, for throwin that punch and some kicks to his grounded opponent after the fight. Chickenshit move but if he doesn't want to take an open weight fight against Mayhem he should quit talking shit.
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Did that article say lopsided loss to Jake Shields? As I remember it, it was a pretty damn close fight.

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ALL BS ASIDE, I just want to see this damn fight. Do it for the fans if not anything else. This is like a mini Fedor/overeem to me. I can't see either losing, that's what intrigues me so much.
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Nick Diaz has said that he will fight at 185, ill try to find the interview. It was just after the KJ fight. So why is he backing away now?
Miller edited out the reporter's question, which was specifically about fighting for TITLES at weight classes, FWIW.

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It's not a reasonable catchweight if it's almost impossible for him to make that weight without having to go on a ridiculously strict diet and potentially cause his body damage. If Mayhem could make 178 he'd have signed the contract, he actually wants this fight, but he can no longer do it. The main reason for him ending his time with the UFC was because he couldn't make 170, and that was 5 years a go, he's much bigger now. 178 isn't reasonable if Mayhem can't make that weight.
Mayhem is full of shit imo. He can make the weight. Just doesn't want to do the work, and of course he'd rather have the weight advantage. I see his point of view, just like I see why he wants this fight (try to become relevant somehow outside of MTV again)

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Did that article say lopsided loss to Jake Shields? As I remember it, it was a pretty damn close fight.
What I remember is Shield being saved by the bell.




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178 is more than a reasonable catch-weight for Mayhem, Miller is just wanting Diaz way out of his comfort zone before he fights him. I bet Nick doesnt even walk around at 185, the only reason he has fought around that weight before is because it was against very small MW's, one of which is now WW and the other is retired.

Mayhem is a very strong MW these days and is too big for Diaz at that weight. 178 is the perfect weight to fight at and the ball is in Diaz's court as far as am concerned he is after all a world champ, what gives mayhem the right to start demanding things?

So Mayhem "Dont be scared, Homie" and fight him at 178 you *****.

BTW am a big fan of both lol, but i dont like how Mayhem is trying to pressure the world champ into fighting him on his terms.

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I get a lot of Bias, Gracie nuthugging feel reading this Article.

Is Nick not intelligent enough to come up with his own comeback to Mayhem's new Ranting...

I think Miller needs to get over himself and move on already but when they say

"Miller has already lost to the only Team Graciefighter he has ever faced; Jake Shields"

Like as if there all at the same level... Annoys me, and i can already get feel of the one sided view on the actual story....

And there just going to try to make the Gracie's look as good as possible as if they didnt Jump Miller on national television, i guess getting held down by a group of 7 to 10 people and taking socker kicks and getting punched to the body and shit isn't jumping someone lol...

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Miller edited out the reporter's question, which was specifically about fighting for TITLES at weight classes, FWIW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osas4gTnUcw



Mayhem is full of shit imo. He can make the weight. Just doesn't want to do the work, and of course he'd rather have the weight advantage. I see his point of view, just like I see why he wants this fight (try to become relevant somehow outside of MTV again)
You do know Mayhem walks around at 205. You want him to lose almost 30lbs for a fight when Diaz walks around at 190ish. Diaz started this with his wanna be gang antics in the cage and Mayhem should get the chance to beat his ass.

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Mayhem actually walks around at a lean 203lbs, that's not flabby Mayhem, that's prime condition walk around weight Mayhem. He'd actually have to lose lean mass to get down to 178, and the Diaz camp gave him 6 weeks to do it. That's another reason Mayhem is claiming it's impossible. Diaz and his camp said they'd do 178, but only if it happens in 6 weeks. There's no way on Earth Mayhem is dropping 25lbs in 6 weeks, no chance.

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